Leap, Crow Hop vs replant

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Originally Posted by Big Slick

Mike, you might have missed my point (I'm thinking). What I took away from OKC was that once you have started your pitch (separating hands) and dragged away, that's a legal pitch; that is is not possible to "crow-drag" if it were, because ASA does not have that in their rule set. This was explicitly brought into the discussion to show a distinction from the NCAA definition of legal pitching (where one can be illegal by replanting after a legal drag).

Is the crow hop a bad term? Yes, because "hop" can be confused with leap. The crow hop then is "replanting" in front of the pitcher's plate before you begin the pitch (the the NFHS uses the word "replant" in what a crow hop is). So are we saying the same thing?

A crow hop is a replant, but (by NCAA definition) not all replants are crow hops. And there is some thought of removing the word crow hop from the NCAA book (not as a rule change, but editorial change).

I agree and pretty much stated so. I was just adding other points that have been discussed. A leap is not a crow hop. A crow hop COULD occur on the back end of a leap, but the IP should already have been observed with the leap. The two terms are a matter of convenience to communiate and are understood by most coaches.

BTW, ASA does not recognize lettered positions (A, B, C, D) for umpires. I have been told that by three different members of the upper level of the NUS. It was also a reason a proposed mechanic change was not addressed because the members of the NUS were "confused" because these indicators were used in the description. Just saying...