Pitcher's glove

SRW · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 08:49am

Thoughts on this photo? Legal?

ASA and/or NFHS please.

RadioBlue · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 09:26am

Legal in NFHS. It is only two colors, neither of which is white, grey, or optic.

NFHS: 1-4-1

bbsbvb83 · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 09:34am

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Originally Posted by RadioBlue

Legal in NFHS.

Assuming they aren't the only team in the world still using a white softball.

RKBUmp · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 09:36am

ASA legal also, 3-4, gloves may be one color or multi color as long as none of the colors are the color of the ball.

bbsbvb83 · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 09:37am

At second glance, the glove appears to be red, black, & blue, which would make it illegal in NFHS.

Big Slick · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 09:46am

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Originally Posted by SRW

Thoughts on this photo? Legal?

ASA and/or NFHS please.

The floppy lacing may present a problem to some, but the colors are ok.

In an effort to hijack this, just a few comments about the other pictures:

Are they playing in a sandbox? And I say this because I haven't seen the field yet this year

The base umpire looks to have pretty good timing and positioning on the force plays at first.

Plate umpire - seems to have a good H/T on 2044, maybe a bit high, but IMO, working high is better than working low. Funny how plate is in a jacket and base is in sleeves.

And now the big hijack question: why the danglie? Seriously, what does this protect? If you are tracking like you are suppose to, it is not needed. To me, the danglie stopping a softball is akin to the foamy commercial where the shaving cream tries to stop the roller coaster.

CecilOne · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 10:19am

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Originally Posted by Big Slick

Plate umpire - seems to have a good H/T on 2044, maybe a bit high, but IMO, working high is better than working low. Funny how plate is in a jacket and base is in sleeves.

I think too high. If I'm reading the photo correctly, his chin is up to the batter's shoulder.

Big Slick · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 10:23am

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Originally Posted by CecilOne

I think too high. If I'm reading the photo correctly, his chin is up to the batter's shoulder.

I think so too, however I'm ok with it. One, I think that is easier to correct than those who set up too low. Also, being that this is a still picture, this may be his "adjusted" positioning based on the batter/catcher. My point is that I do like his right foot and hips from the angle provided by the photo.

shipwreck · #9 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 10:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Slick

The floppy lacing may present a problem to some, but the colors are ok.

In an effort to hijack this, just a few comments about the other pictures:

Are they playing in a sandbox? And I say this because I haven't seen the field yet this year

The base umpire looks to have pretty good timing and positioning on the force plays at first.

Plate umpire - seems to have a good H/T on 2044, maybe a bit high, but IMO, working high is better than working low. Funny how plate is in a jacket and base is in sleeves.

And now the big hijack question: why the danglie? Seriously, what does this protect? If you are tracking like you are suppose to, it is not needed. To me, the danglie stopping a softball is akin to the foamy commercial where the shaving cream tries to stop the roller coaster.

I disagree with you on the dangling throat protector. I have been hit there before and while there was some pain, I believe it would have been much greater if I hadn't been wearing it. JMHO Dave

RadioBlue · #10 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 11:42am

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Originally Posted by shipwreck

I disagree with you on the dangling throat protector. I have been hit there before and while there was some pain, I believe it would have been much greater if I hadn't been wearing it. JMHO Dave

+1
me, too

RadioBlue · #11 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 11:44am

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Originally Posted by bbsbvb83

At second glance, the glove appears to be red, black, & blue, which would make it illegal in NFHS.

I missed the blue. You'd be correct if that's the case. However, maybe the black is just a "weathered" blue. In one of the photos, it looks as if that might be the case.

NFHS: two colors or less (not including the lacing) as long as those colors are not white, grey, or optic, and it's legal.

HugoTafurst · #12 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 12:42pm

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Originally Posted by Big Slick

SNIP

And now the big hijack question: why the danglie?
SNIP

Did you know that the "danglie" is required in NFHS?
I didn't know it was either until this year I happened to re-read that section while sitting on the crapper!

NFHS Umpire Manual p.19

Quote:

"Equipment for the plate umpire should offer the best in protection, mobility and comfort. A mask with a throat protector is required in F.P..............."

Guess I better get one if I'm going to do post season....

Big Slick · #13 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 12:53pm

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Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

Did you know that the "danglie" is required in NFHS?
I didn't know it was either until this year I happened to re-read that section while sitting on the crapper!

NFHS Umpire Manual p.19

Guess I better get one if I'm going to do post season....

I believe the built in "wire protect" as it is called satisfies this requirement. And that's my point, before the wire/extended protector became the design, the danglie was necessary to provide some protection. However, I think any mask designed for umpiring softball has the wire protector.

Those that I've seen hit in the throat (that number is 2), was due to a foul ball in which they a) didn't have time to react or b) reacted with a "wince". Neither time would have a danglie lessened the impact.

Skahtboi · #14 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 01:35pm

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Originally Posted by Big Slick

The floppy lacing may present a problem to some, but the colors are ok.

I think that the "floppy lacing" you are seeing are the lines on the jersey to her uniform. I don't see any "floppy lacing."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Slick

And now the big hijack question: why the danglie? Seriously, what does this protect? If you are tracking like you are suppose to, it is not needed. To me, the danglie stopping a softball is akin to the foamy commercial where the shaving cream tries to stop the roller coaster.

Believe what you will about the "danglie," but there is no way I would ever go without one. Been hit there before I started using it (one time was all it took), and about three times since. Trust me, it is worth every penny for the protection it provides.

And if you believe it is a "tracking" the ball issue, it isn't. If you are using a proper stance behind the plate, you are leaving yourself vunerable, albeit a small window of vunerability, if you don't use the throat protector ("danglie," in your vernacular.)

In reference to the OP, I see nothing wrong with the glove in the picture in either ASA or NFHS.

bbsbvb83 · #15 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 22, 2011, 01:39pm

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Originally Posted by Big Slick

I believe the built in "wire protect" as it is called satisfies this requirement.

It does.

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