help finding older post

[shipwreck]

Can someone help me find an older post discussing what constitutes being out of the box when it pertains to making contact with the ball a second time? We had this discussion at our State softball tourney yesterday. Dave

[JEL]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

Can someone help me find an older post discussing what constitutes being out of the box when it pertains to making contact with the ball a second time? We had this discussion at our State softball tourney yesterday. Dave

Maybe this one?

Foul or Out?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by JEL

Maybe this one?

Foul or Out?

Or, if you do not have the patience for that, here is a summary of rulings I have obtained during the past year:

NFHS, USSSA - both feet out to be INT/out

ASA, NCAA, PONY, NSA - one foot out is INT/out

Source: various interpreters and rules committee members

[AtlUmpSteve]

CecilOne, not disputing what you have been told; just wondering who your NFHS source(s) was(were)?? You can PM me, if you prefer not to be public with it.

Thanks.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

CecilOne, not disputing what you have been told; just wondering who your NFHS source(s) was(were)?? You can PM me, if you prefer not to be public with it.

Thanks.

I posted this a while ago, and confirmed it with the original poster. I think I also checked with a local interpreter, not sure.

One of our other members once posted that a member of the NFHS softball rule committee said:

"For purpose of this rule only, being out of the box is defined as having both feet on the ground outside of the box."

This was never contradicted or reversed by that (now former) member of the Committee or by anyone in authority at NFHS, so it's my basis.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I posted this a while ago, and confirmed it with the original poster. I think I also checked with a local interpreter, not sure.

One of our other members once posted that a member of the NFHS softball rule committee said:

"For purpose of this rule only, being out of the box is defined as having both feet on the ground outside of the box."

This was never contradicted or reversed by that (now former) member of the Committee or by anyone in authority at NFHS, so it's my basis.

If that is truly the desire of NFHS, then they should make sure that it is in print either in the Rules Book or the Case Book.