I know it's been covered before, but I can't find the old thread

[SamG]

NSA Rules

R1 on 3rd, no outs.

Ball 4. Catcher returns ball to pitcher in circle. BR runs to 1st, rounds it, goes three steps off (toward 2nd), then stops, and goes back to 1st.

Defense goes nuts and says the pitcher got back on the rubber before BR reached 1st.

Offense makes two claims
1) Pitcher held the ball up to "threaten" a throw
2) BR is entitled to round, stop, and return to 1st as long as it's an immediate stop & return.

Ball WAS in the circle in pitcher's possession when BR touched 1st. I do not know if pitcher was on the rubber.

This is U12, not that it makes a difference but that's why this play is still being used.

I *THINK* under both offensive claims, BR becomes R2 on 1st. Am I correct? Does it make a difference if the pitcher is on the rubber before BR reaches 1st?

Thanks

I do know (or think I do) if offense claim #1 is true, LBR is off.