tag play

[johnsonrod]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I've not seen wherever else this was tossed around... The runner would be safe. Clearly. If you think otherwise, explain why.

this was the cliffs notes version of the discussion ncasa alluded to regarding a different play

UMPIRE A:The catcher had possession of the ball when the tag was made. There is no rule requiring the fielder to "finish" or "complete" a tag.

ME: a follow up question, if im playing in the IF, and i have the ball and try a "swipe tag" on a runner. as soon as i touch the runner with my glove (ball inside glove) the runner is out? even if the ball comes out of the glove .001s after the tag?

UMPIRE A:If the ball comes out making the tag, apparently you did not have control of it

ME:whats the difference between my tag situation and the OPs tag situation? in both instances the ball was either knocked loosed or came out of the glove immediately after the "tag".

UMPIRE A:catcher has ball secured in glove with hand on glove, and the runners shoulder hits catchers glove knocking ball loose after the tag...

ME: im envisioning the shoulder touching the glove as the tag. im still having a hard time understanding how a shoulder hitting the glove, knocking the ball loose (OP scenario) is different than a glove hitting a shoulder which knocks the ball loose (swipe tag scenario).

this is when all h*ll broke loose

ME: [im trying] to figure out when the ball comes out during the tag/.0001s after the tag/bc of the tag, if the runner is still out.

that last question is really the crux of the whole "debate".