Obstruction Question

[Andy]

I have a straight interference on this play...dead ball, runner out, BR on first.

It looks to me as if the collision happened just after the fielder got the ball. The fielder did not have time to try to tag the runner, then throw to first for the DP.

I would have an interference with a fielder attempting to field a batted ball.

[MD Longhorn]

I agree on Int and double play ... but not with your reasoning. If the fielder HAD the ball, as you say you believe she did, when contact was made, you don't have interference with a fielder fielding a batted ball.

[MountieSB]

It was a game in PA under NFHS rules. We didn't call an interpreter because it didn't affect the outcome of the game and we were satisfied with the original call. This was just talk we had after the game wondering if anything else could be called.

Are you a rules interpreter? If so, what call would you make? Thanks!

Mike

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by MountieSB

It was a game in PA under NFHS rules. We didn't call an interpreter because it didn't affect the outcome of the game and we were satisfied with the original call. This was just talk we had after the game wondering if anything else could be called.

Are you a rules interpreter? If so, what call would you make? Thanks!

Mike

Mike, my first reaction to the video was "absolutely two outs." Then I watched it again, and started talking myself out of it, as you rarely see two outs with this type of interference. But I watched it a few more times (actually while discussing with another forum member), and I am leaning towards also calling the BR out (meaning I would need more information to call the second out).

I think you should run this by the rules interpreter in your district. I have heard he enjoys rule discussions (especially if there are refreshing, frosty adult beverages).

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

Mike, my first reaction to the video was "absolutely two outs." Then I watched it again, and started talking myself out of it, as you rarely see two outs with this type of interference. But I watched it a few more times (actually while discussing with another forum member), and I am leaning towards also calling the BR out (meaning I would need more information to call the second out).

I think you should run this by the rules interpreter in your district. I have heard he enjoys rule discussions (especially if there are refreshing, frosty adult beverages).

We always see things more clearly with those refreshing, frosty adult beverages.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by Steve M

We always see things more clearly with those refreshing, frosty adult beverages.

Steve, I don't think I said that the rules interpreter has better or clearer ruling when he is enjoying a "cold one"; I just know he likes to discuss rules and beverages. Wasn't this the same guy that provided you with post game refreshment (at least that's what I heard)?

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

Steve, I don't think I said that the rules interpreter has better or clearer ruling when he is enjoying a "cold one"; I just know he likes to discuss rules and beverages. Wasn't this the same guy that provided you with post game refreshment (at least that's what I heard)?

Slick,
I didn't recognize the field, so I don't know who that interpreter is just yet.
Now you didn't say that we see more clearly in those discusion while having a cold one - I did. There's an awful lot of talking during those discussions, so I usually need one or two or more.
"Wasn't this the same guy that provided you with post game refreshment (at least that's what I heard)?" Could be - there have been a few who kindly shared. And it's always much appreciated.

[CecilOne]

After watching the video, the fielder apparently has the ball before the contact. The runner is therefore tagged out with the fielder knocked down in the process.
I don't see the "runner has to go poof" theory, so unless the runner was judged to do something intentional or malicious, no call but the runner out.

Q: Is she a retired runner as the knock down came after the tag?

[MountieSB]

If you're who I think you are, then 1. You're my favorite rules interpeter, and 2. I DO know that you like a cold, frosty one (while discussing rules, of course!). How was the DII world series?

Mike

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by MountieSB

If you're who I think you are, then 1. You're my favorite rules interpeter, and 2. I DO know that you like a cold, frosty one (while discussing rules, of course!). How was the DII world series?

Mike

Mike,
You are correct. DII was really great. We had good weather, a wonderful complex, a great crew and 13 really well played games. Wonderful experience all the way around.

[argodad]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

Mike,
You are correct. DII was really great. We had good weather, a wonderful complex, a great crew and 13 really well played games. Wonderful experience all the way around.

How was Coach M from Valdosta? (He can be a whiner. Usually just loud enough for you to hear behind the plate.)

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by argodad

How was Coach M from Valdosta? (He can be a whiner. Usually just loud enough for you to hear behind the plate.)

He was an really good. All the coaches were. It was a very good tournament, a lot of good play. Too bad these players do not get the TV time, they really played their hearts out.

North Georgia was the big story, coming in at 50-0 and then leaving at 1-2.

[blue man]

I have a double play on this one. R1 has the option to stop, go in front or behind 2b player. Not through her. R1 brought her arms up into her chest which tells me she knew there was going to be a collision.
The BR was only six steps out of the box when the collision took place. It looks to me like there was lots of time to turn the double.
I am not going to penalize the defense (only take one out) when the offense is clearly at fault.

Paul