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Old Mon Jun 14, 2010, 10:53am
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Rules Supplement
32. Intentional Walk (Slow Pitch)

......"and the intentional walk starts by the defensive team notifying the plate umpire of their intent."

Sorry, DC...too late.
Nice job on not allowing them to reverse their decision to issue the intentional walk.
Not much different than them informing you of a substitution, and you've entered it on your lineup card and/or informed the official scorer/opposing team.

Somewhat similar sitch last weekend in a 12u tournament. Coin flip, red team is heads, coin comes up heads, I ask red team what is their choice, red HC asks one of his two captains "what do we want to be home or away?" Captain#1 says "Away." Look of horror comes over red HC's face as he glares at capt.#1, who then says.."no, no, I meant home, we want to be home."
Red HC looks at me (still in shock), and I say, "OK, red team is the away team and will be batting first. White, you're home. Coaches, let's get them out there, have a good game."
Red HC then says, "Come on ump, you know she made a mistake." My reply, "Coach, all I do know is that you get a choice when you win the flip, her choice when asked by you was AWAY. You get one opportunity to chose, not two."
Coaches will say and ask the darndest things.
Reminds me of a similar situation in the NFL several years back where the team captain, instead of saying "defer" and kick off that half, he said, "We want to kick the ball!" So they got to kick the ball both halves.
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Old Mon Jun 14, 2010, 11:10pm
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Reminds me of a similar situation in the NFL several years back where the team captain, instead of saying "defer" and kick off that half, he said, "We want to kick the ball!" So they got to kick the ball both halves.
And in spite of all the criticism, Phil Luckett was 100% correct. The putz for the Steelers changed his selection with the coin in the air. The NFL rules basically instruct game officials to accept first utterance. The Steelers player thought he was being smart.

But instead of the official being supported by Jerry Siemen and the NFL, he was given a pass with pay for his playoff assignment that year. Talk about a gutless reaction by the NFL.

Almost as bad as the TH we have to endure to watch softball on TV.
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Old Tue Jun 15, 2010, 07:08am
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Here is what it is.

Both teams have all day to figure out their response should they be asked the question. There are only two possible answers and the person RESPONSIBLE for informing the umpire of that PREDETERMINED decision should know which answer is to be offered.

As an umpire, we have a responsibility to BOTH teams and are not there to protect the ones that are lacking in the intelligence it takes to pick a or b.

Instead of blaming the umpire for not being that RESPONSIBLE individual's guardian angel, the team should be talking to the idiot who made the mistake and remember, it was THEY who selective that person to deliver the message.
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