Pitch in circle, raises throwing hand with ball, LBR?

[MD Longhorn]

I see your point, Mike - I really do... and I can see how that would simplify things (and probably waste a lot less time).

I don't so SP ... so what do you do if, after a Base on Balls, the BR runs to halfway between 1st and 2nd, and then walks toward 2nd. Keep it live? What if she stops 2/3 of the way and starts walking toward 1st? Can R1 on third remain off 3rd, "playing with the pitcher" while BR moves? Not arguing with you at all ... just wondering if the stoppage of play is codified, or it's something left up to umpire judgement.

One thing (perhaps the only thing) I do like about LBR is the situation with R1 on 3rd having to be ON the bag, or moving in 1 direction while BR advances to 2nd after a walk. Without LBR, R1 could take a decent lead - short enough to return, far enough to score if the ball goes to 2nd, and pretty much guarantee BR 2nd base. With LBR, R1 has to stay (making a play on BR not as risky ... although so many coaches refuse this easy out for some reason), or move (putting herself at risk if she gets too far off).

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I see your point, Mike - I really do... and I can see how that would simplify things (and probably waste a lot less time).

I don't so SP ... so what do you do if, after a Base on Balls, the BR runs to halfway between 1st and 2nd, and then walks toward 2nd. Keep it live? What if she stops 2/3 of the way and starts walking toward 1st? Can R1 on third remain off 3rd, "playing with the pitcher" while BR moves? Not arguing with you at all ... just wondering if the stoppage of play is codified, or it's something left up to umpire judgement.

Like I said before. You let them play. When the softball play is obviously finished, and the monkey play begins, you just kill the ball. Yes, you wait for a runner to stop advancing, but when they stop and they are no longer trying to advance and the pitcher isn't making a play, you kill it.

One thing (perhaps the only thing) I do like about LBR is the situation with R1 on 3rd having to be ON the bag, or moving in 1 direction while BR advances to 2nd after a walk. Without LBR, R1 could take a decent lead - short enough to return, far enough to score if the ball goes to 2nd, and pretty much guarantee BR 2nd base. With LBR, R1 has to stay (making a play on BR not as risky ... although so many coaches refuse this easy out for some reason), or move (putting herself at risk if she gets too far off).

It is all jugment and NOTHING that you come up with in a FP came has not already occurred in the SP game. And it seems to have worked all these years.

And yes, you will get the idiot coach who makes a career out of complaining and blaming others for his/her shortcomings.

Coach: Blue, you can't do that, my player was going to ..................
Umpire: Then she SHOULD have done it coach.
Coach: But...
Umpire: We're playing ball, coach.