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Old Sun May 30, 2010, 09:27pm
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Question 3 man mechanics, rotation on homerun

Where in any 3 man mechanics manuals does it state what should be the rotation on a home run when the 1BU starts on the line? I was working our State HS tourney in the Fall. I was PU on a home run and stayed home to make sure batter/runner touched 3rd and home. After the game I was told I needed to rotate to third and 1BU would rotate home, just as if it wasn't a home run. I have been watching quite a few NCAA tourney games, and many do this but some have not been doing this. It makes sense to do it by why are there some that aren't? Does any manual give exact directives on this? Dave
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Old Sun May 30, 2010, 09:41pm
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U1 rotates home when: no one on or runner on 1st only and no umpire chases
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Old Sun May 30, 2010, 09:42pm
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If the home run is a bomb and no one goes out on the ball then the rotation would be 1U to home and PU to 3rd. If one of the base umpires goes out then it would be just like the a 2 umpire system.
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Old Tue Jun 01, 2010, 11:07am
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what manual? could not find it in fed or asa but i guess implied on a fly ball to the outfield.

believe it does say it specifically in NCAA. yes o no?
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Old Tue Jun 01, 2010, 11:28am
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I think in NCAA it says not to chase on a can of corn, or an obvious home run. This is what I have been told, I don't call any NCAA ball. But if this is true and nobody goes out then the rotation would be the same as a ground ball through the infield, PU to 3rd, 1BU to home.

But in ASA and FED anything that has a chance of being caught someone should chase, so then that would leave you with 2 person mechanics and PU would have BR touching home, BU (whichever didn't go out) would take BR all the way to 3rd. Now if for some reason nobody went out, then you would have the same rotation as the ground ball through the middle.
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Old Tue Jun 01, 2010, 11:36am
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The basic rule of thumb for NCAA, to make it as simple as it can possibly be made is this, if you think that it might present a problem for your PU to call, then you should chase.
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Old Tue Jun 01, 2010, 01:04pm
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The basic rule of thumb for NCAA, to make it as simple as it can possibly be made is this, if you think that it might present a problem for your PU to call, then you should chase.
That pretty much hits the nail right on the head.
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Old Tue Jun 01, 2010, 01:41pm
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That pretty much hits the nail right on the head.
Not really, depends on how good your plate ump is They might have trouble calling a routine fly ball!!!
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Old Wed Jun 02, 2010, 11:07am
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Not really, depends on how good your plate ump is They might have trouble calling a routine fly ball!!!
If "they" are having trouble calling routine fly balls, perhaps further training is needed.
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Old Wed Jun 02, 2010, 01:52pm
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If your state uses NFHS mechanics, and no one chases, then you can find the mechanics on page 65 (no runners on base), page 66 (runner on first base only) and page 67 (runner on third base only) of the NFHS Softball Umpires Manual (2010 and 2011). These would be the times that 1U would start on the line and treat the play as a "Base Hit to Outfield."

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