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Old Sun May 30, 2010, 11:23am
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So you're saying she is a short, old male umpire?
I know that you know what I meant... I also know that you know that the Queens English isn't even my second langue. So why do you want to make fun of me and my disabilities? (wanna get tossed???)

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Actually, in SP community, it is like dealing with children. They will believe their peer before anyone of authority not matter how ludicrous is it. If they know you are a player, you are going to be believed before an umpire who is no longer playing the game or place umpiring first. Unfortunately, some of these "active" umpires tend to be reluctant to enforce some rules.
So... what is different compaired to FP in this matter?

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I don't think the players are that smart. You want respect from the AA, just hustle and be where you are supposed to be (even though the players may think differently). And yes, when they cross the line don't be afraid to dump 'em. Just don't make that an habitual reaction.
AA = Ano...something Alcoholics?
Players are that smart... Well, no they're not smart. They just know by hart how to make us look like a fool. If we don't do what we're supposed to do and be where we're supposed to be. And when we are getting started as an umpire we make those mistakes frequently... And they take gladly advantage of that.
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Old Sun May 30, 2010, 12:17pm
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I know that you know what I meant... I also know that you know that the Queens English isn't even my second langue. So why do you want to make fun of me and my disabilities? (wanna get tossed???)
If you heard the English they speak in the Queens........

Obviously, just kidding, but you knew that

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So... what is different compaired to FP in this matter?
Mentality. See answer below.

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AA = Ano...something Alcoholics?
Close.....it is the Alleged Adults that turn us umpires in to alcoholics!

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Players are that smart... Well, no they're not smart. They just know by hart how to make us look like a fool. If we don't do what we're supposed to do and be where we're supposed to be. And when we are getting started as an umpire we make those mistakes frequently... And they take gladly advantage of that.
Which was the point of my post. Just do what YOU know you are supposed to do, not what the players think you are supposed to do. Too many new umpires will allow themselves to be talked into something especially if it is fellow players. An umpire who is not associated with the local players is going to follow what s/he was taught as an umpire.

A perfect example is with bases loaded in a one-umpire game and you have to make the calls at 2B & 1B from the holding zone on the 3B line. Don't know how many times I've been told by the players that I have to get out there to make that call. Well, no, I'm not leaving the plate anytime there is a possible play there. I would like to get closer to the plays I'm calling, but that is not the probper mechanic and I know better than the players. Meanwhile, some "buddy" umpire will get out in the middle of the infield for a play like that and be staring at 1B looking for the ball that was thrown to the plate instead. Oops!
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Old Sun May 30, 2010, 01:01pm
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... Close.....it is the Alleged Adults that turn us umpires in to alcoholics! ...
So, there is no difference with FP (male league)!
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