TWP that actually happened

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

. Let some of the newer folks take a shot at this before the big guns come in and answer.

Oh well.

[MD Longhorn]

Mike, of course, nailed it.

Don't forget that if any of these runners realizes they are where they shouldn't be, and pitcher is still doing nothing - if they leave the base, they are out.

[ronald]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Mike, of course, nailed it.

Don't forget that if any of these runners realizes they are where they shouldn't be, and pitcher is still doing nothing - if they leave the base, they are out.

wait a minute... where is my credit for remembering it.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by ronald

wait a minute... where is my credit for remembering it.

I believe that case play was FED, and only 2 runners. But I guess we'll give partial credit.

[JefferMC]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Mike, of course, nailed it.

Don't forget that if any of these runners realizes they are where they shouldn't be, and pitcher is still doing nothing - if they leave the base, they are out.

Really?

Well, yeah, I guess so. The rule says "a base" not "a base that they're entitled to."

[ronald]

well fed has a similar play from the casebook. in section 8.

bases load r3 steals (why, who knows?), r2 does nothing, ball in circle, pitcher does nothing. pu waits a little to see if r3 will do nothing. nope. rules dead ball and calls r3 out.

how you like them apples? add that to the asa vs feds differences.

and you guys are slipping if I find this 5 days later

[MD Longhorn]

Can you post the actual play... I thought it was also FED that had the opposite case play that mirrors ASA.

Incidentally, what in the world are they calling R3 out for - what rule is cited?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by ronald

well fed has a similar play from the casebook. in section 8.

bases load r3 steals (why, who knows?), r2 does nothing, ball in circle, pitcher does nothing. pu waits a little to see if r3 will do nothing. nope. rules dead ball and calls r3 out.

how you like them apples? add that to the asa vs feds differences.

and you guys are slipping if I find this 5 days later

Think it is a different play. Batter ball where they were on the base before the ball reached the pitcher in the circle and are out, by rule, if any of them leave the base. The play above doesn't state when the ball reached the pitcher in the circle.

[ronald]

I see fed and asa having different rulings when two players are on the same base and the pitcher has the ball in the circle and does not do anything to make a play on the runners on the same base. No?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by ronald

I see fed and asa having different rulings when two players are on the same base and the pitcher has the ball in the circle and does not do anything to make a play on the runners on the same base. No?

Yes. In both, the umpire waits a reasonable time for a play to be made, and if no play is made, declares the ball dead. After that, they differ. In ASA, the umpire directs the runners to their proper bases. In NFHS, the umpire declares the runner that is not entitled to the base OUT.