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Old Fri Feb 05, 2010, 11:14am
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How is this not DMC (dumb move catcher) for standing in the base path with no play on?

I didn't see in your post that the runner altered course to cause collision, simply that given the fact that she was obstructed she chose a direct path to the base through the fielder as opposed to altering course.

I see this all the time with F3 not giving up 1B on an extra base hit and runner has to muscle through the player and bag. Is it USC to take the path you would have taken without the OBS???
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Old Fri Feb 05, 2010, 11:39am
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Is it USC to take the path you would have taken without the OBS???
That is the judgment that the umpire has to make!

Simply trying to reach the base and making some contact with an obstructing defender isn't in itself illegal. Purposely "laying out the fielder", acting with flagrant intent to injure or harm another player, excessively crashing into a fielder when avoidance is a viable option- those all go beyond the scope of "just trying to reach the base".

All contact is not created equally and all contact is not illegal contact!

Back to the OP. The poster stated that the runner tried to go through the catcher, laid her out and the he had unsportsmanlike conduct. That is his (the umpire's) judgment to make. So, I didn't really take his question as being, "Is this unsportsmanlike?". He apparently has already judged that the runner's actions were. He was asking about the penalization and scoring of the run. That answer lies in the playing rules, not the individual umpire's judgment or discretion.
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Old Fri Feb 05, 2010, 09:41pm
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In NFHS, malicious contact supersedes obstruction (8-6-14)

The ball is dead and the runner is out. Each other runner must return to the last base touched at the time of interference. The runner is also ejected. The batter-runner is awarded first base. Since the runner is out, the run cannot score.
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Old Thu Feb 11, 2010, 03:22pm
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In Fed, if the runner touches the plate and then immediately creams the catcher, is that still an out and no run?
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Old Thu Feb 11, 2010, 04:47pm
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Per 3-6-18 Penalty: Play is dead immediately, offender is out unless she has scored, offender is ejected, all other runners returned to the last base touched at time of malicious contact.
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