Appeal a turn toward second.

[AtlUmpSteve]

To add (had enough on my mind in the previous post):

Calling any ASA State UIC "Sparky", even if you were right in your position (and you were dead wrong in that case) would get you relegated to dogsh!t assignments without any future in most places. And, based on what you have posted, this is the State UIC in a neighboring state within the same Region, who has direct and personal access to your State UIC. Hardly sounds like a well thought out plan.

[Stevetheump]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

To add (had enough on my mind in the previous post):

Calling any ASA State UIC "Sparky", even if you were right in your position (and you were dead wrong in that case) would get you relegated to dogsh!t assignments without any future in most places. And, based on what you have posted, this is the State UIC in a neighboring state within the same Region, who has direct and personal access to your State UIC. Hardly sounds like a well thought out plan.

First of all, I did not realize the person in question was a state UIC. If he wants to "get back at me," have at it. I've done my share of "dogsh!t" assignments, so the "threat" of them is no threat to me.
Second, I HAVE NO DESIRE - OR NEED - TO ADVANCE. I'm happy with my career. I'm quite happy to STAY at the local level.
Lastly, I now realize this board is nothing more than a GOBN - Good Ol' Boy Network. Full of self-righteous & kiss-@SS "umpires."
So, with that, I take my leave of you.
BTW - like the font?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Stevetheump

First of all, I did not realize the person in question was a state UIC. If he wants to "get back at me," have at it. I've done my share of "dogsh!t" assignments, so the "threat" of them is no threat to me.
Second, I HAVE NO DESIRE - OR NEED - TO ADVANCE. I'm happy with my career. I'm quite happy to STAY at the local level.
Lastly, I now realize this board is nothing more than a GOBN - Good Ol' Boy Network. Full of self-righteous & kiss-@SS "umpires."
So, with that, I take my leave of you.
BTW - like the font?

SHEESH !!

So, with that, I take my leave of you.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Stevetheump

First of all, I did not realize the person in question was a state UIC. If he wants to "get back at me," have at it. I've done my share of "dogsh!t" assignments, so the "threat" of them is no threat to me.

That is true, you don't know who I am and I wouldn't expect you to act in any other manner than as yourself.

Second, I HAVE NO DESIRE - OR NEED - TO ADVANCE. I'm happy with my career. I'm quite happy to STAY at the local level.

Nothing wrong with that, though it is nice when an umpire has a goal a little higher than present.

Lastly, I now realize this board is nothing more than a GOBN - Good Ol' Boy Network. Full of self-righteous & kiss-@SS "umpires."
So, with that, I take my leave of you.

Amazing how little you actually know about the folks on this board. If anything, we are each others toughest critics which is a common occurence among any group of sport officials. In the long run, it makes us all better officials.

[Andy]

Probably wasting my keystrokes.....

Steve - AtlUmpSteve gave you some good advice;

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Stevetheump; just an observation here. You claim a lot of experience, but you're the newbie here. You may well have a great deal to offer, with your experience, but your approach might be better received if you took a softer approach. Many here have a lot of experience, solid credentials, and have built credibility with other posters. Act like the newbie, build your rep, and you will earn credibility based on your postings, not because you demand it. Just like you have to earn it on the field.

Drop back, study us, see what we offer. Challenge what is gray, but give respect to those that have earned it when you may not fully see it that way. Some here not only have the experience, but serve on the rules committees, hold ASA (and other) positions in our states, have direct access to the rules makers and interpretors, and more. I'm not suggesting you can't interact; but your approach with some that have greater knowledge isn't helping your credibility.

When I enter a new group of people that I don't know or haven't met, I try to lay back a bit to get a feel for the group, who the strong personalities are, etc. Then I try to integrate myself to the group gently....much the same advice that Steve gave you.

Coming in like you did may give the wrong impression about you to the group. As Steve said...you may have a great deal of knowledge and experience to offer...give us a chance to get to know you. As it is now, your posting attitude and style has turned some people off and they probably won't even pay attention to your posts.....

If you decide to leave, oh well, nothing we can do about that...I hope you don't 'cause its always good to have more experience and knowledge around here. Just try to fit in...who knows, you might like it!

[argodad]

Originally Posted by Stevetheump

So, with that, I take my leave of you.
BTW - like the font?

Good riddance. And I'm glad I don't have to go on the field with you.

[celebur]

Originally Posted by Stevetheump

First of all, I did not realize the person in question was a state UIC.

That Mike is a state UIC is actually irrelevant. What matters is that he backs it up with articualte arguments backed by the rules. If you had bothered to observe more, you would have noticed that in time.

As for myself, the best thing I did around here was decide to post less and read more. But you didn't come here to read.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by celebur

That Mike is a state UIC is actually irrelevant. What matters is that he backs it up with articualte arguments backed by the rules. If you had bothered to observe more, you would have noticed that in time.

As for myself, the best thing I did around here was decide to post less and read more. But you didn't come here to read.

I mostly agree with that; what brought that on was the "Sparky" pejorative. That's past the point of a rules or mechanics discussion disagreement, it's also a point of disrespect to the position that person holds.

[ncaaumpdj]

im glad i just observe and dont get involved unless i feel my opinion will HELP...LOL See you in Colorado at fireworks steve?

DJ

[AtlUmpSteve]

Unless something changes, I plan to be there, DJ.

[shagpal]

I am a noob, and wish to comment...

if players are standing around confused and the ball is still live, as an umpire, I think it would be advisable to loudly announce, "the ball is still LIVE", without any stoppage of play.

I believe the smartest player on the field would react to force a play, or yell to other players to make a play, or a coach would yell out for players to make a play.

like calling "time, or dead ball" to announce stoppage of play, simply alerting players and coaches as to the status of play neither instructs any player on how to make a play, or denies them the ability to choose their play.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by ncaaumpdj

im glad i just observe and dont get involved unless i feel my opinion will HELP...LOL See you in Colorado at fireworks steve?

DJ

*blink blink* Another Wisconsin ump? Originally from Milwaukee here.

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