catcher take down

[CecilOne]

I know we've discussed all the possible runner/fielder plays before, but please save me a long search and opine about this.

Runners at 3rd, 2nd; fly ball to center. Both runners tag, throw comes home.
R1 upright beats the throw, but slips on plate and goes feet first past the plate into the catcher who goes down.
R2 about 2/3 of the way to 3rd, but catcher is flat on the ground and can't throw.

[NCASAUmp]

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[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I've got nothing.

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Originally Posted by RadioBlue

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[NCASAUmp]

Ump law.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I know we've discussed all the possible runner/fielder plays before, but please save me a long search and opine about this.

Runners at 3rd, 2nd; fly ball to center. Both runners tag, throw comes home.
R1 upright beats the throw, but slips on plate and goes feet first past the plate into the catcher who goes down.
R2 about 2/3 of the way to 3rd, but catcher is flat on the ground and can't throw.

Was it a legal slide?

[7in60]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I know we've discussed all the possible runner/fielder plays before, but please save me a long search and opine about this.

Runners at 3rd, 2nd; fly ball to center. Both runners tag, throw comes home.
R1 upright beats the throw, but slips on plate and goes feet first past the plate into the catcher who goes down.
R2 about 2/3 of the way to 3rd, but catcher is flat on the ground and can't throw.

Interference, send the runner back to third.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by 7in60

Interference, send the runner back to third.

Based on......?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by 7in60

Interference, send the runner back to third.

I wouldn't call INT on a bet, but if you do, you have to call the runner out, not return to 3B.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I know we've discussed all the possible runner/fielder plays before, but please save me a long search and opine about this.

Runners at 3rd, 2nd; fly ball to center. Both runners tag, throw comes home.
R1 upright beats the throw, but slips on plate and goes feet first past the plate into the catcher who goes down.
R2 about 2/3 of the way to 3rd, but catcher is flat on the ground and can't throw.

Isn't there interference with the very possible play at 3rd on R2?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Isn't there interference with the very possible play at 3rd on R2?

Where is the act of interference by the runner?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Where is the act of interference by the runner?

goes feet first past the plate into the catcher who goes down.
R2 about 2/3 of the way to 3rd, but catcher is flat on the ground and can't throw.

[wadeintothem]

For there to be (Crash) interference, the runner would have had to remain upright.

this is more like an unintentional slide.

Are you looking for a different type of INT on this?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

goes feet first past the plate into the catcher who goes down.
R2 about 2/3 of the way to 3rd, but catcher is flat on the ground and can't throw.

Still looking for an act of interference.

What the hell is the catcher doing somewhere they never should have been?

If the player came in sliding and went past the plate, the same would have happened. You cannot expect a runner to slow down and place themself in a position to be put out just so they do not accidently run/slide into a player out of position.

Now, if the catcher was out in front of the plate and was swept by the runner, INT is quite possible. But simply slipping on the plate....

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

What the hell is the catcher doing somewhere they never should have been?

Why "never should have been", when covering the plate on the throw home trying to get R1?

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

If the player came in sliding and went past the plate, the same would have happened. You cannot expect a runner to slow down and place themself in a position to be put out just so they do not accidently run/slide into a player out of position.

The runner went into the catcher, regardless of sliding or not, accidently or not. How is the catcher out of position?

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Now, if the catcher was out in front of the plate and was swept by the runner, INT is quite possible. But simply slipping on the plate....

Why does which side of the plate matter?