Would you allow this (ASA)?

NCASAUmp · #1 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 13, 2009, 11:11pm

Take a look at this picture. Ignore the cone-shape to it. Would you allow this on a bat? The ring is for the finger, and it's supposed to come off the bat when the bat is dropped. The ring stays on the finger of the batter after the bat is dropped.

wadeintothem · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 13, 2009, 11:16pm

Thats like the definition of illegal. How do we ignore the cone shape and answer this question?

Umm..

Yes if it wasnt that thing, I would allow it.

NCASAUmp · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 13, 2009, 11:25pm

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Thats like the definition of illegal. How do we ignore the cone shape and answer this question?

Umm..

Yes if it wasnt that thing, I would allow it.

I'm focusing more on the aspect that it wraps around the grip and attaches to the batter's hand like a ring, but is meant to come off.

At what point is something meant to be permanently attached or securely taped?

wadeintothem · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 13, 2009, 11:51pm

Um, there is no "or securely taped"

Nothing can be attached in the manner you are describing, taped or otherwise.

IRISHMAFIA · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 14, 2009, 07:17am

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Take a look at this picture. Ignore the cone-shape to it. Would you allow this on a bat? The ring is for the finger, and it's supposed to come off the bat when the bat is dropped. The ring stays on the finger of the batter after the bat is dropped.

No. Even though designed to be temporary, it is still attached to the bat during the swing. By being placed where it is, the item in question basically defeats the purpose of the required angle and protrusion of the knob which is set in the rules for the safety of those around the user.

NCASAUmp · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 14, 2009, 08:08am

And that's exactly what I thought. The cone shape alone makes it a "no-go" for ASA, and my opinion on the fact that it attaches in this non-permanent manner is that it's not approved by ASA.

steveshane67 · #7 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 15, 2009, 06:34pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Take a look at this picture. Ignore the cone-shape to it. Would you allow this on a bat? The ring is for the finger, and it's supposed to come off the bat when the bat is dropped. The ring stays on the finger of the batter after the bat is dropped.

are you talking about thumb protectors? commonly seen in baseball to dampen the vibrations when getting jammed??

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obviously the rules arent written with knowledge of every product out on the market, if the product violates the spirit of the rule, then disallow it.

The thing that gets me, as a player, is donuts arent allowed. According to the ASA umps in my league, there is a risk of a donut slipping off the BARREL when being swung, thus the injury risk is too high to be allowed. I dont know if anyones ever swung a bat with a donut on it, but you could take 1 million of the most violent cuts ever and that donut wont move an inch.

NCASAUmp · #8 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 15, 2009, 07:06pm

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Originally Posted by steveshane67

are you talking about thumb protectors? commonly seen in baseball to dampen the vibrations when getting jammed??

Direct ProHitter Thumb Protector Adult | BaseballExpress.com

obviously the rules arent written with knowledge of every product out on the market, if the product violates the spirit of the rule, then disallow it.

The thing that gets me, as a player, is donuts arent allowed. According to the ASA umps in my league, there is a risk of a donut slipping off the BARREL when being swung, thus the injury risk is too high to be allowed. I dont know if anyones ever swung a bat with a donut on it, but you could take 1 million of the most violent cuts ever and that donut wont move an inch.

No, this is different from those thumb protectors. The picture I showed was something that gets attached to the pinky or the ring finger of your down hand, not the thumb of your top hand.

ronald · #9 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 16, 2009, 09:40pm

Are bat cuffs allowed in ASA championship play?

Thanks, Ron

SethPDX · #10 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 16, 2009, 09:43pm

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Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

No, this is different from those thumb protectors. The picture I showed was something that gets attached to the pinky or the ring finger of your down hand, not the thumb of your top hand.

I think he's referring to the weighted kind of donut you put on the bat while on deck taking warm-up swings.