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Old Tue Jul 21, 2009, 09:45pm
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Disclaimer noted, IrishMafia.

On a personal note, this is something I've been trying to work on personally. I realize that I can't let my on-field/court competitiveness get the best of me because I know any bad actions on my part undo in an instant all I believe in terms of sportsmanship and civility.
Can I clone you? Please?

Seriously, that's one of the best statements I've heard in a LONG time!
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Tue Jul 21, 2009, 11:27pm
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I once worked a league that called itself "professional," and the pay was (only slightly) more than $44 a game.

I don't make anywhere close to that for sissy ball, er, I mean slow pitch.
First off, I dont care to do anything besides slow pitch, its just a easy way to make a few extra $$ a few days a week.

Second off, dont you find the hypocrisy in a softball ump calling one brand of softball sissy ball, when the manly sport to umpire would be baseball???
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Old Wed Jul 22, 2009, 03:37pm
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First off, I dont care to do anything besides slow pitch, its just a easy way to make a few extra $$ a few days a week.
If that's your reason, then you're in it for the wrong reason.
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Old Wed Jul 22, 2009, 03:59pm
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If that's your reason, then you're in it for the wrong reason.
To the contrary, I see nothing wrong with wanting to make a few extra bucks during the week. I sure as hell wouldn't be behind the plate, putting up with the chatter for free. Wait... I did for the first 4 years, but that's beside the point...

If the money is his ONLY reason, then he probably will not last long. He won't improve, nor will he move up. However, if moving up is not his goal, that's his right. Improvement, on the other hand, is not optional. You either improve, or you'll drown on the field.

But I can understand where the money part comes in. Frankly, this economy sucks, and I can't fault a guy for wanting to supplement his income. That was initially my sole reason for continuing to call games after I stopped volunteering. Luckily, I later saw the light.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.

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Old Wed Jul 22, 2009, 04:12pm
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If that's your reason, then you're in it for the wrong reason.
I wouldnt work games for free.

I do give significantly of my time to my organization, though.

Working the games itself, thats for pay.
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Old Wed Jul 22, 2009, 04:25pm
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I should say, yes, the money is nice, but his wording just sounded so wrong. Sorry if I sounded like the money is the evil of it.
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Old Wed Jul 22, 2009, 08:18pm
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First off, I dont care to do anything besides slow pitch, its just a easy way to make a few extra $$ a few days a week.

How did know?...

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Second off, dont you find the hypocrisy in a softball ump calling one brand of softball sissy ball, when the manly sport to umpire would be baseball???


Then give baseball a try, if you're man enough.

Oh wait, you just want the $$$. In that case, stick to softball since you think it's so easy...
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Old Thu Jul 23, 2009, 08:25am
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First off, I dont care to do anything besides slow pitch, its just a easy way to make a few extra $$ a few days a week.

Second off, dont you find the hypocrisy in a softball ump calling one brand of softball sissy ball, when the manly sport to umpire would be baseball???
How many times can you be wrong on one thread? As you have already been told, the softball universe is much larger than your world. There is slow pitch, modified pitch, 16" softball, and fastpitch. Those of us who work men's fastpitch have a joking relationship with the slow pitch only umpires (no offense, NCASAUMP).
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Old Thu Jul 23, 2009, 08:59am
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How many times can you be wrong on one thread? As you have already been told, the softball universe is much larger than your world. There is slow pitch, modified pitch, 16" softball, and fastpitch. Those of us who work men's fastpitch have a joking relationship with the slow pitch only umpires (no offense, NCASAUMP).
Bah... I knew you were kidding. Believe me, I'm used to it.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Thu Jul 23, 2009, 08:35pm
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How many times can you be wrong on one thread? As you have already been told, the softball universe is much larger than your world. There is slow pitch, modified pitch, 16" softball, and fastpitch. Those of us who work men's fastpitch have a joking relationship with the slow pitch only umpires (no offense, NCASAUMP).
1st off, I made one simple mistake, when trying to decide what form of a verb to use (who really cares anyways!!!! and I bet 95% of adults dont even know the rule on when to use which, so F off) when, during the heat of the moment I only thought about FP and SP SB.

This is my last comment on this thread, already about 5 topics away from original topic.

Call slow pitch sissy ball is fine, your not going to offend me, Im not trying to be a professional umpire..... BUT how can you not see the irony of a SOFTBALL umpire making fun of a brand of softball, when BASEBALL is clearly the more manly of the sports.

I dont care what sport it is, when its being played by [grown] men, it, 9 times out of 10 will be played faster, stronger, more intensely, [insert adj here] than when its being played by women, or by guys not "good enough" to play baseball (yes im talking about guys playing modified or even fast pitch softball), thus making it harder to officiate. Obviously LL would probably be easier than NCAA SB, but Im talking about a 18+ NABA/MABL baseball league is harder to ump, than probably anything short of D I NCAA SB.

I dont know for sure, but I would wager a lot of money that the pay scale for baseball is higher than softball, and I would also wager a lot of money that the reason for such is that it is harder to ump a baseball game than it is a softball game.
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Old Thu Jul 23, 2009, 10:55pm
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I dont know for sure, but I would wager a lot of money that the pay scale for baseball is higher than softball, and I would also wager a lot of money that the reason for such is that it is harder to ump a baseball game than it is a softball game.
The reason I work softball is you can make much more money in softball; but I've done both up to 18U American Legion baseball and a dabble in wood bats for a few games.

Per game, you make more money in a single game of little ball than softball, if you care to stand around while a pitcher scratches himself for 20 mins in between trying to pick off a runner he couldnt pick off if his life depended on it. The game is 3 hours long. I could do around 2 softball games in that time, so that pretty much evens weight it in favor of a single game of legion ball. But i can do 12 games of softball on a weekend or a double header of little ball - thus little ball went by the way side for me long ago. Baseball is my first love of sports and I still watch MLB and various other games of BB and enjoy it.

As an official, the field is larger, the game longer and more drawn out, and slower. So yes, it is much more painful to work than a nice fast paced game of softball. Little league is barely a sport though and you couldnt drag me on that field. But a good game of baseball definitely does have its challenges...

Money isnt close though, softball is much more profitable.
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Old Thu Jul 23, 2009, 11:54pm
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...This is my last comment on this thread,...
Promises, promises.

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...Im not trying to be a professional umpire........
Gosh, really?
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Old Fri Jul 24, 2009, 08:31am
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... Im not trying to be a professional umpire.....
Did you not say that you[B] do [B]umpire, though? And you get paid for it? I'm sorry, but whether or not you are actually trying, you are a professional. You are being paid to provide a service. If you don't want to be a Professional Umpire, then I suggest you quit now. From your comments in this thread, I would be surprised if you lasted any length of time anyway.
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