Such a shame

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

You mean like all those new and useless agencies such as "The Department of Homeland Security" that have cropped up over the last decade or so???

Well, since we've dived OT again, given the seizure of private property and the awarding of assets to political allies, is anyone surprised at the relaxing of relations with Cuba? Crimonitly, O has so much in common with Chávez, Mugabe, and Castro that they should form a voting bloc in the UN. After the GM nationalization and the vacating of the bankruptcy laws to favor cronies, no Dem can ever again use the phrase "rule of law" with any integrity. Without property rights, none of the other liberties matter.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Well, since we've dived OT again, given the seizure of private property and the awarding of assets to political allies, is anyone surprised at the relaxing of relations with Cuba? Crimonitly, O has so much in common with Chávez, Mugabe, and Castro that they should form a voting bloc in the UN. After the GM nationalization and the vacating of the bankruptcy laws to favor cronies, no Dem can ever again use the phrase "rule of law" with any integrity. Without property rights, none of the other liberties matter.

What do you expect when this country's founding document had the original language changed from "life, liberty, and the pursuit of property" to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?"

The stage was set early.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Well, since we've dived OT again, given the seizure of private property and the awarding of assets to political allies, is anyone surprised at the relaxing of relations with Cuba? Crimonitly, O has so much in common with Chávez, Mugabe, and Castro that they should form a voting bloc in the UN. After the GM nationalization and the vacating of the bankruptcy laws to favor cronies, no Dem can ever again use the phrase "rule of law" with any integrity. Without property rights, none of the other liberties matter.

Are you implying that with all that has happened over the past decade, anyone can? The whim of government has been arbitrary for quite some time. They no longer answer to the citizenry, but expect the citizenry to answer to them. Americans are slowly, and happily, giving up every one of their civil liberties, and seem to be sleeping through the whole process. This is not a Rep/Dem, conservative/liberal thing any longer, and anyone who tries to keep it that way are just as at fault as the sleeping citizenry.

[tcblue13]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Are you implying that with all that has happened over the past decade, anyone can? The whim of government has been arbitrary for quite some time. They no longer answer to the citizenry, but expect the citizenry to answer to them. Americans are slowly, and happily, giving up every one of their civil liberties, and seem to be sleeping through the whole process. This is not a Rep/Dem, conservative/liberal thing any longer, and anyone who tries to keep it that way are just as at fault as the sleeping citizenry.

American capitalism gone with a whimper - Pravda.Ru

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Are you implying that with all that has happened over the past decade, anyone can? The whim of government has been arbitrary for quite some time. They no longer answer to the citizenry, but expect the citizenry to answer to them. Americans are slowly, and happily, giving up every one of their civil liberties, and seem to be sleeping through the whole process. This is not a Rep/Dem, conservative/liberal thing any longer, and anyone who tries to keep it that way are just as at fault as the sleeping citizenry.

You are not going back nearly far enough, content as you are to lay the blame on W. It begins with FDR and the idea that it is the government's responsibility to re-distribute private property for political patronage under the guise of "justice". I haven't been a Republican for some time now. W was no conservative, but compared with O he was rock-ribbed. O is a socialist; this country has never experienced a socialist government before; we have one now. The left gets apoplectic over imagined civil rights (foreign combatants have few, if any, civil rights in this country) while cheering the wanton seizure of private property. The latter is clearly far more dangerous.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Dakota

You are not going back nearly far enough, content as you are to lay the blame on W. It begins with FDR and the idea that it is the government's responsibility to re-distribute private property for political patronage under the guise of "justice". I haven't been a Republican for some time now. W was no conservative, but compared with O he was rock-ribbed. O is a socialist; this country has never experienced a socialist government before; we have one now. The left gets apoplectic over imagined civil rights (foreign combatants have few, if any, civil rights in this country) while cheering the wanton seizure of private property. The latter is clearly far more dangerous.

FDR was a socialist.


O is a straight up Marxist.


sincerely,

switzerland