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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 08:49am
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No out....the first offense is a strike on the batter and a warning. Next offense, strike on the batter and the player and coach are restricted to the bench.
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 08:52am
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No out....the first offense is a strike on the batter and a warning. Next offense, strike on the batter and the player and coach are restricted to the bench.
Unless strike three, how can the player be restricted to the bench and continue to bat at the same time?
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 08:56am
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Unless strike three, how can the player be restricted to the bench and continue to bat at the same time?
Do I really need to answer this one, Mike?
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 09:12am
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Do I really need to answer this one, Mike?
long bat?
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 09:24am
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long bat?
My wife been telling stories about me again?

I would surmise you would call the strike, ask the coach which substitute s/he's putting in for the current batter, then inform the coach that both s/he and the offending batter are restricted to the dugout.

Without any official interpretation, that's how I would read it.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 01:09pm
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My wife been telling stories about me again?
Yep, she started the story with: "I have a fairy tale for all to hear.
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 01:17pm
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Yep, she started the story with: "I have a fairy tale for all to hear.
D'oh!
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 10:28pm
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Tom,

Yes that would work. when i wrote the fill in the blank, I did not remember what the thread was about but was thinking along the lines of if the team kept repeating that they might be entering making a travesty of the game. But with some teams if they got to 2 ejections they would be under 8 players.
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 09:34am
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Unless strike three, how can the player be restricted to the bench and continue to bat at the same time?

Uh substitution?

Or did this one go over my head?.....
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 09:45am
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 10:03am
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Uh substitution?

Or did this one go over my head?.....
And if there is no sub available?
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 10:08am
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And if there is no sub available?
I've got an out. This is basically the same as an ejection, but NFHS likes to restrict to the dugout rather than remove them from the park.

Reminder: I do ASA, not NFHS.
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 10:19am
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...This is basically the same as an ejection, but NFHS likes to restrict to the dugout rather than remove them from the park....
This is not correct, exactly.

NFHS has a 3 tier sanction system for players/coaches/teams infractions.

1) Warning. a) This is given for the first offense of a minor or less serious infraction, such as carelessly throwing a bat, illegal equipment, intentionally removing the lines, etc. b) A warning can also be given for an unsporting act judged to be minor.

2) Restriction to the dugout/bench. This is given for the second offense of the minor or less serious infraction of the kind in 1) a).

3) Ejection. This is given without warning for a serious unsporting act, such as malicious contact and fighting. It will also be given after a warning for a minor unsporting act that is repeated or if an infraction that resulted in restriction to the bench is repeated.

NFHS does not require minor children who are ejected to be removed from the ball park, but it does require ejected coaches to leave the area.

Also, typically, ejection carries additional penalties imposed by the state association (e.g. multi-game suspensions and the like) whereas restriction typically does not.
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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 10:31am
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This is not correct, exactly.

NFHS has a 3 tier sanction system for players/coaches/teams infractions.

1) Warning. a) This is given for the first offense of a minor or less serious infraction, such as carelessly throwing a bat, illegal equipment, intentionally removing the lines, etc. b) A warning can also be given for an unsporting act judged to be minor.

2) Restriction to the dugout/bench. This is given for the second offense of the minor or less serious infraction of the kind in 1) a).

3) Ejection. This is given without warning for a serious unsporting act, such as malicious contact and fighting. It will also be given after a warning for a minor unsporting act that is repeated or if an infraction that resulted in restriction to the bench is repeated.

NFHS does not require minor children who are ejected to be removed from the ball park, but it does require ejected coaches to leave the area.

Also, typically, ejection carries additional penalties imposed by the state association (e.g. multi-game suspensions and the like) whereas restriction typically does not.
I'm not seeing what you and I are saying as being mutually exclusive, nor was I implying that NFHS does not have ejections. I was saying that they prefer restrictions to the dugout rather than an ejection. My statement had more to do with how you handle "what comes next," which is roughly the same as if you had ejected the player.

But again, I reiterate that I'm ASA-only, so take my statements for what you will. This is just how it's been explained to me in the past by guys in our area who call HS softball.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

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Old Fri May 08, 2009, 10:54am
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... or if an infraction that resulted in restriction to the bench is repeated.
You srue about this one. I thought it was second and all subsequent offenders restricted to the bench.
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