Silly NCAA runner assistance rule...

[BuggBob]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

However, I've never believed that having a rule book on the field is smart. Yes, you can fix certain situations, but that just opens you up to tons of trouble. The closest my rule book comes to the field is in my car in the parking lot.

There must be a rule book on site, either your's or their's per NCAA rule.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by BuggBob

There must be a rule book on site, either your's or their's per NCAA rule.

On site can be in your car in the parking lot. They just want one that you can access in a reasonable amount of time.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

The rule is the rule. Not a hard rule to understand or enforce. Let's not debate the rule, let's talk about the process:

Where the hell is the fun in that?

I just made the comment of the rule that is obviously the result of a coach-friendly rule set.

[CajunNewBlue]

they play NJCAA...
Didn't read where (in either article) the umpire "froze" other than this "statement" came from the umpire NOT issuing the warning right then. (kinda seems like he didnt know the rule based on him stating that he had issued the ruling earlier in the season...if bob cross was the umpire on the field at the time... article doesn't say.)
One article says the crew came together and conferred... the other says a umpire left the field to talk to a superior (and came back with that ruling??? not much of a superior!!)
What a cluster.. if you believe anything you read.

But I gotta ask.... if the ruling was 100% wrong.. were was the protest? how was the other school able to proceed up the playoff ladder?
WTH is going on? is the world ending? OMG!! we all gonna die!!

No biggie... just having fun

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Another completely useless, BS rule from the NCAA

The book is full of em!

[Steve M]

I seem to remember parts of a discussion on a situation like this - more than one teammate slapping hands with a homerun hitter before home was touched. I do not believe that there was a consensus reached as to whether all touches on a hit were to be considered the first - and a warning issued. Or if each touch was treated separately.

Wide Slick - I mean Big Slick is right - the rule is the rule and it gets enforced. I did not have any warnings this year, but I was watching. It's not a rule I particularly like or agree with, but that's not relevant - it is the rule. My inclination is that I'd have had a warning to issue - as it all happened on a single play. But, if you see multiple infractions on a single play, do you have one penalty enforced or potentially multiple penalties enforced?

[wadeintothem]

I think the key would be wheter or not you issued your warning. They are entitled to that. If they continue after the warning, it is on them.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by Steve M

I seem to remember parts of a discussion on a situation like this - more than one teammate slapping hands with a homerun hitter before home was touched. I do not believe that there was a consensus reached as to whether all touches on a hit were to be considered the first - and a warning issued. Or if each touch was treated separately.

Wide Slick - I mean Big Slick is right -

Such a funny, funny, man. Just remember, in the wilderness, no one can hear you scream (Steve and I will be together this weekend, and we are staying in a bed and breakfast far away from civilization).

Steve, we discussed a similar scenario earlier this year in which a runner and the batter were touched on the same homerun (not multiple touches of the batter). By rule, would this mean the warning is issued for the runner, and the out applied to the batter? The consensus between our group is exactly what Wade stated the timing of the warning.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

Such a funny, funny, man. Just remember, in the wilderness, no one can hear you scream (Steve and I will be together this weekend, and we are staying in a bed and breakfast far away from civilization).

Oh, there are so many ways this thread could go from here

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Oh, there are so many ways this thread could go from here

Hmmm... "Big Slick," huh? I'm staying far, far away from this one...

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Hmmm... "Big Slick," huh? I'm staying far, far away from this one...

And it is on a major river in PA. River . . . wilderness . . . Maybe Steve's new name will be "Ned".

Oh wait, he is bringing refreshments. Never mind. Steve, you are a wonderful crew member, best crew member ever!!

[vcblue]

I don't ump college (I have a 8 to 5 job), however I will weigh in. I take it this rule was put in place to speed up the game and/or sportsmanship (no other reasons for such a dumb rule). If this is the logic behind the rule then the blues blew it. By definition a walk off HR means the game is over, therefore the game cannot be delayed. I also don't see how starting to celebrate a win via a HR 0' to 60' early constitutes a lack of sportsmanship. Therefore, the blues should have told the coach that in their judgment this was only a warning and walked of the field (no protest allowed).

Ron