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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 11:24am
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The way it sounds does seem threatening but I never felt threatened and on high school games and especially in the playoffs I do tend to have more patience with them. (Our association fines an ejected coach)

If he would have continued in any way after I told him Play Ball then I would have restricted him to the dugout and then if he continued I would have ejected.
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 11:32am
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The way it sounds does seem threatening but I never felt threatened and on high school games and especially in the playoffs I do tend to have more patience with them. (Our association fines an ejected coach)

If he would have continued in any way after I told him Play Ball then I would have restricted him to the dugout and then if he continued I would have ejected.
There can be absolutely nothing positive that can come out of a meeting with a coach holding a bat in the middle of a field.

Normally, and definitely in the past, I agree that patience (and a good laugh) would probably be my reaction. However, in today's world, I'm not waiting to find out what this idiot intends to do with this bat.
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 01:42am
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The way it sounds does seem threatening but I never felt threatened and on high school games and especially in the playoffs I do tend to have more patience with them. (Our association fines an ejected coach)

If he would have continued in any way after I told him Play Ball then I would have restricted him to the dugout and then if he continued I would have ejected.
This is more than an automatic ejection. Letting him get by with this, is a no brainer of epic proportions.
He has shown you up
It's unsportsmanlike
He's questioning balls and strikes

No ejecting him just helps throw the next crew under the bus. I can already hear it: "Gosh, you're ejecting me for THAT? I did a lot more with the last guy! I even took a bat out on to the field and he wouldn't run me, and now you're telling me..."
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 03:01am
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This is more than an automatic ejection. Letting him get by with this, is a no brainer of epic proportions.
He has shown you up
It's unsportsmanlike
He's questioning balls and strikes

No ejecting him just helps throw the next crew under the bus. I can already hear it: "Gosh, you're ejecting me for THAT? I did a lot more with the last guy! I even took a bat out on to the field and he wouldn't run me, and now you're telling me..."
There are 4 kinds of umpires:

First kind will say they have a gun

Second kind will say they have a gun and show the gun

Third kind will say it, show it, and point it

Fourth kind will say it, show it, point it, and pull the trigger!

I've come really close to ejecting a few coaches but I just couldn't pull the trigger (resolution for next year: pull the trigger).

Once the runner slid in safe at home and the defensive coach just ran up and screamed at me about it, thinking back to it, I should've said scarcastically and loud enough so the offensive coach could hear it too, "You know what? You've just convinced me that there was indeed an out on the play!!!" pause to let the offensive coach get a bit edgy and then continue saying to the defensive coach, "You're the one who's out on the play!!!" and summarily eject the defensive coach.

Later that same defensive coach (they're at bat now) argues my balls and strikes and I called a strike on a pitch that clipped the lower front side of the zone and then just sunk down into the dirt and she's screaming at me, I ripped off my mask and chastised her for acting like a 3 year old out loud, and she should've been ejected but I didn't want to cause her team (14 year olds) to forfeit the game if I threw her out so I let her stay in, it did get her to shut her trap for the rest of the game though I later found out that they could just get a parent in to coach the rest of the game.

I'm thinking, next time a coach pulls that **** on me, i'll say: "Look, adults are in this game to be role models to kids, so why don't you learn something from your players?" (her players, all young teenagers behaved like they were at church) or I'll go criticize her in game decisions and tell her that her strategy was the dumbest strategy i've ever seen and when she tells me to stop, i'll say: "Hey, this is FUN!!! No wonder why you like to heckle so much!!!" and then eject her.

I don't want to let them walk all over me and I'm not afraid of tossing a lit match into a pool of gasoline and I figured, heck, i've already lost some control of this game by letting her yell at me, might as well have some fun with it...

If this were an adult league, I think some F--- You Calls are in order...
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 08:16am
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There are 4 kinds of umpires:

First kind will say they have a gun

Second kind will say they have a gun and show the gun

Third kind will say it, show it, and point it

Fourth kind will say it, show it, point it, and pull the trigger!

I've come really close to ejecting a few coaches but I just couldn't pull the trigger (resolution for next year: pull the trigger).

Once the runner slid in safe at home and the defensive coach just ran up and screamed at me about it, thinking back to it, I should've said scarcastically and loud enough so the offensive coach could hear it too, "You know what? You've just convinced me that there was indeed an out on the play!!!" pause to let the offensive coach get a bit edgy and then continue saying to the defensive coach, "You're the one who's out on the play!!!" and summarily eject the defensive coach.

Later that same defensive coach (they're at bat now) argues my balls and strikes and I called a strike on a pitch that clipped the lower front side of the zone and then just sunk down into the dirt and she's screaming at me, I ripped off my mask and chastised her for acting like a 3 year old out loud, and she should've been ejected but I didn't want to cause her team (14 year olds) to forfeit the game if I threw her out so I let her stay in, it did get her to shut her trap for the rest of the game though I later found out that they could just get a parent in to coach the rest of the game.

I'm thinking, next time a coach pulls that **** on me, i'll say: "Look, adults are in this game to be role models to kids, so why don't you learn something from your players?" (her players, all young teenagers behaved like they were at church) or I'll go criticize her in game decisions and tell her that her strategy was the dumbest strategy i've ever seen and when she tells me to stop, i'll say: "Hey, this is FUN!!! No wonder why you like to heckle so much!!!" and then eject her.

I don't want to let them walk all over me and I'm not afraid of tossing a lit match into a pool of gasoline and I figured, heck, i've already lost some control of this game by letting her yell at me, might as well have some fun with it...

If this were an adult league, I think some F--- You Calls are in order...

ummm... might just be me but you are saying way too much...

pull your gun and fire.... no need to twirl it around and do tricks with it.... just point and pull.
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 10:14am
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just point and pull.

Would that be on a called or swinging third strike?
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Would that be on a called or swinging third strike?
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 09:44am
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There are 4 kinds of umpires:

First kind will say they have a gun

Second kind will say they have a gun and show the gun

Third kind will say it, show it, and point it

Fourth kind will say it, show it, point it, and pull the trigger!

I've come really close to ejecting a few coaches but I just couldn't pull the trigger (resolution for next year: pull the trigger).

Once the runner slid in safe at home and the defensive coach just ran up and screamed at me about it, thinking back to it, I should've said scarcastically and loud enough so the offensive coach could hear it too, "You know what? You've just convinced me that there was indeed an out on the play!!!" pause to let the offensive coach get a bit edgy and then continue saying to the defensive coach, "You're the one who's out on the play!!!" and summarily eject the defensive coach.

Later that same defensive coach (they're at bat now) argues my balls and strikes and I called a strike on a pitch that clipped the lower front side of the zone and then just sunk down into the dirt and she's screaming at me, I ripped off my mask and chastised her for acting like a 3 year old out loud, and she should've been ejected but I didn't want to cause her team (14 year olds) to forfeit the game if I threw her out so I let her stay in, it did get her to shut her trap for the rest of the game though I later found out that they could just get a parent in to coach the rest of the game.

I'm thinking, next time a coach pulls that **** on me, i'll say: "Look, adults are in this game to be role models to kids, so why don't you learn something from your players?" (her players, all young teenagers behaved like they were at church) or I'll go criticize her in game decisions and tell her that her strategy was the dumbest strategy i've ever seen and when she tells me to stop, i'll say: "Hey, this is FUN!!! No wonder why you like to heckle so much!!!" and then eject her.

I don't want to let them walk all over me and I'm not afraid of tossing a lit match into a pool of gasoline and I figured, heck, i've already lost some control of this game by letting her yell at me, might as well have some fun with it...

If this were an adult league, I think some F--- You Calls are in order...
First you need to make sure you are doing your job correctly. If you are improperly doing job and causing yourself trouble because you have not taken the time to learn the game or its mechanics - you are the root cause of the trouble. Softball is not baseball with a little ball.

Your postings, including how you handled the coach above indicate you either are clueless about the game you allege to be officiating or you are intentionally posting BS. The mask thing makes me think the latter; however, giving you the benefit of that doubt that you are not full of crap and want to learn this game - stop posting ANYTHING about what you do, since it is incorrect and we dont need to know about it (not to mention you are impressing no one with your obvious lack of knowledge and skills), and start asking what you SHOULD do and maybe you might take the step UP to a fast pitch softball umpire.
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 03:18pm
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There are 4 kinds of umpires:

First kind will say they have a gun

Second kind will say they have a gun and show the gun

Third kind will say it, show it, and point it

Fourth kind will say it, show it, point it, and pull the trigger!
You missed the fifth kind.

The fifth kind just pulls the gun out and blasts away.
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