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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 08:50am
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Approved bats
Are there any bats that can be used in high school that are not approved in ASA.
Can you use wooden bats in ASA fast pitch?
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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 08:53am
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Are there any bats that can be used in high school that are not approved in ASA.
Can you use wooden bats in ASA fast pitch?
Don't know about NFHS, but you can still use wooden bats in all levels of ASA. They must still comply with Rule 3-1 (length, weight, thickness, safety knob, safety grip, and so on and so forth), but they're still in the books.
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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 08:56am
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What can be used in ASA can be used in NFHS.
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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 09:00am
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What can be used in ASA can be used in NFHS.
I think he knows that. The question is the reverse.

I believe that the answer is no, if it is not approved ASA, it is not legal for Fed.

There should be no reason not to allow a wooden softball bat since the idea is safety.
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NFHS requires the ASA approval; either the 2000 or the 2004 certification must be present. To my knowledge, wood softball bats do not have that.

ASA would allow the wood bats, using a remaining grandfather clause that allows bats "in the umpire's judgment" manufactured prior to 2000 that would meet the standards. NFHS does not allow that judgment.
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NFHS requires the ASA approval; either the 2000 or the 2004 certification must be present. To my knowledge, wood softball bats do not have that.

ASA would allow the wood bats, using a remaining grandfather clause that allows bats "in the umpire's judgment" manufactured prior to 2000 that would meet the standards. NFHS does not allow that judgment.
Do they even MAKE wooden softball bats anymore? I haven't seen one at the sporting goods store in years...
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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 09:12am
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Do they even MAKE wooden softball bats anymore? I haven't seen one at the sporting goods store in years...
The answer is yes.
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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 09:16am
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The answer is yes.
Huh. How 'bout that?

Some are even ASA approved, according to the website.

I've verified on ASA's website that the bats listed as being ASA-approved on the Viper website are, in fact, approved by ASA.
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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 09:33am
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NFHS requires the ASA approval; either the 2000 or the 2004 certification must be present. To my knowledge, wood softball bats do not have that.

ASA would allow the wood bats, using a remaining grandfather clause that allows bats "in the umpire's judgment" manufactured prior to 2000 that would meet the standards. NFHS does not allow that judgment.
Steve,
There is an exception in the NFHS rulebook, "Bats entirely made of wood are permitted and need not bear an ASA mark."
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If any of you see a JO/HS player using a wood bat outside of some rec league/lamer level ball, be sure to let us know. I find it hard to believe any parent spending any amount of money on their DD to play ball would hamstring her with that bat and even is she did hamstring her with that bat - her friends have a better bat she could use.

I have seen many coaches use a wood bat for warm ups though.
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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 09:46am
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What can be used in ASA can be used in NFHS.
Not quite, NFHS does not allow the "grandfathered" bats.
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