Umpire Mechanics

[tcblue13]

Dear Umpie,
I saw a decent ball game last night. I went as a fan just to see a game and to go to school on the umpires. I got there in the third inning. Home team was clearly better than the visitors but the Umpire Mechanics were HORRIBLE. These blues were not in my association.
Game 1 - Varsity
PU crouches behind catcher - other ball and stick mechanic, calls a strike as he points to his right. I was not at the start of the game but he batter's box was chalked way too small - I am assuming baseball. BTW Would you have allowed the game to start on a field that was not lined properly? Maybe both coaches agreed to play anyway. But the smaller batter's box put the visiting team at a disadvantage as they had two slappers in the lineup. PU did not brush the plate from the time I got there to the 6th inning when a "fan" questioned how he could call a pith a ball when he couldn't see the plate because it was so dirty. He also held up his hand to the pitcher to allow the batter to get set, IMHO not keeping the ball live between pitches. We were told not to do that. Even if a batter holds up her hand, that is not a request for time.

Game 2 - JV
PU is now BU and vice versa. BU has his pullover jacket untucked and it hanging to his thighs. What made this so bad was the PU warned the visiting team about their untucked shirts as the leadoff batter was coming to bat. He also crouched behind the catcher, no slot, but he did use a hammer instead of pointing on his strike calls. He was way quick on calling balls and strikes. On one pitch that was extremely low, bounced in front of the batter, he called it a ball as it bounced. The pitch hit the batter on the foot so his called ball had to be changed to dead ball. He was calling strikes as the ball was hitting the mitt. This plate meeting did not involve the size of the batter's box but they played anyway. I doubt the JV coaches even noticed.

I am so thankful for my association teaching us proper softball mechanics. Am I overly critical of fellow umpires? I want to feel like a part of a fraternity that sticks together and stands by each other but I couldn't really find anything there to stand behind. Honestly they looked like baseball guys who were just grabbed to do a softball game. I want to keep going to games just for the fun of it but I don't want to overly scrutinize the men and ladies in blue.

Blue in NC

[wadeintothem]

That only thing lamer than getting a jacket that doesnt fit properly is tucking in your jacket.

What the heck are you talking about? Who tucks in a pullover?

And yes I've started a game with goofed up boxes.. it just means its all my judgement. The boxes dont mean anything. If I can, I have the front raked away. If not, its gone soon enough anyway.

[wadeintothem]

hmm seeing your location.. Tucking in a jacket isnt some southern thang is it?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

hmm seeing your location.. Tucking in a jacket isnt some southern thang is it?

Hey now!

Maybe it's a pullover sweater? I don't know. I'm no fashion cop.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

hmm seeing your location.. Tucking in a jacket isnt some southern thang is it?

Don't group us all in there! I think the jacket tucked in is a Baseball thang... bleeck.

[Dukat]

Mississippi here so you cant get much more southern than that and my pullover fits properly and is never tucked in.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

hmm seeing your location.. Tucking in a jacket isnt some southern thang is it?

Trust me, it isn't!

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

hmm seeing your location.. Tucking in a jacket isnt some southern thang is it?

Perhaps these jacket tucking umpires also officiate baseball games. Many baseball associations and conferences want the jackets tucked.

Gerry Davis offers a plate jacket that's designed to be tucked:

Micro Fiber Jackets w/Open Bottom: Gerry Davis Sports

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by tcblue13

He also held up his hand to the pitcher to allow the batter to get set, IMHO not keeping the ball live between pitches. We were told not to do that.

Say what? If necessary, why would you not give the pitcher an indication the batter is not set in the box? Not doing so is just asking for trouble and possible liability for an injury.

And one of my pet peeves, what is going to happen with the live ball in the circle between pitchers anyway? The umpire is not killing the ball, simply giving direction to the pitcher.

Even if a batter holds up her hand, that is not a request for time.

When saying it is "not a request for time", has anyone told you exactly what it is? Of course, it is a request for time. That doesn't mean the umpire must acknowledge and/or grant the request. If the umpire believes it is appropriate to permit the request, so be it.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

When saying it is "not a request for time", has anyone told you exactly what it is? Of course, it is a request for time. That doesn't mean the umpire must acknowledge and/or grant the request. If the umpire believes it is appropriate to permit the request, so be it.

I agree. I grant it 99% of the time, so long as it isn't obviously excessive and the game is moving along at a decent pace.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by tcblue13

Dear Umpie...

Huh???

Originally Posted by tcblue13

....calls a strike as he points to his right...

While I don't like this mechanic, I am not going to hold against someone if it is his/her only flaw.

Originally Posted by tcblue13

I was not at the start of the game but he batter's box was chalked way too small... Would you have allowed the game to start on a field that was not lined properly?

No biggie. Of course I would have started the game like this. As Wade has already pointed out, it is my judgment anyway. I would have made a note of it at the pregame meeting with the coaches, though.

Originally Posted by tcblue13

But the smaller batter's box put the visiting team at a disadvantage as they had two slappers in the lineup.

No more so than if they had been playing with regulation batter's boxes marked. Again, totally my judgment as to whether or not they made contact with the ball outside of the box.

Originally Posted by tcblue13

He also held up his hand to the pitcher to allow the batter to get set, IMHO not keeping the ball live between pitches. We were told not to do that. Even if a batter holds up her hand, that is not a request for time.

What mechanic were you told to use to prevent the pitcher from pitching before you and the batter are set? The mechanic you state is the prescribed mechanic in nearly all softball codes. Sounds like, in this case, your association provided you with some incorrect information. This is not a calling of time, it is just an umpire telling a pitcher that you cannot pitch yet!

Originally Posted by tcblue13

BU has his pullover jacket untucked and it hanging to his thighs.

Pullover jackets are made to be worn untucked. Now it sounds like this guy may have been wearing one that was a little oversized, but who knows, maybe he has lost a lot of weight recently.

Originally Posted by tcblue13

He was way quick on calling balls and strikes. On one pitch that was extremely low, bounced in front of the batter, he called it a ball as it bounced. The pitch hit the batter on the foot so his called ball had to be changed to dead ball. He was calling strikes as the ball was hitting the mitt.

Common rookie mistake. This is why we are always telling each other to slow down. Heck....these many years later, I still have games where I say to myself "slow down."

Originally Posted by tcblue13

Am I overly critical of fellow umpires?

Maybe just a little.

In some cases, such as the holding of the hand to prevent the pitcher from pitching, you have been given some incorrect information from your association. Might I suggest, in addition to what you have been told there, you read the ASA Umpires manual, view their DVD, perhaps read the CCA Umpires Improvement Manual, and the NFHS Umpires manual. They will give a lot of useful information. Use it for discussion at the next association meeting where they are giving you info that doesn't agree with what you have read. A big part of umpiring sucessfully for many years is always being a student.

[tcblue13]

Thanks Scott

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by tcblue13

Thanks Scott

Just my opinions, but you are certainly welcome!

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

No more so than if they had been playing with regulation batter's boxes marked. Again, totally my judgment as to whether or not they made contact with the ball outside of the box.

If the lines are wrong or non-existent, it boils down to the umpire's best judgment as to whether or not a batter is in the box. Best way to handle it is to make it clear in the pregame conference that you know the boxes are wrong, and that the lines will not be used to judge whether or not a batter's in the box.

Last night, I was calling on a field where the crew chalks only the outside and back lines to the box. The front line and line closest to the plate are always missing, so it's my judgment as to whether or not they're beyond the lines.

One guy decided to get cute with me about it and stepped into the box with one foot about an inch or so from the plate. I told him to get back. He fussed and grumbled. Long story made very short, his attitude and attempt to show me up afterward earned him the first ejection of the year.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

One guy decided to get cute with me about it and stepped into the box with one foot about an inch or so from the plate. I told him to get back. He fussed and grumbled. Long story made very short, his attitude and attempt to show me up afterward earned him the first ejection of the year.

Dave,

The lines should be 6 inches from the plate. Assuming an average shoe size of 9 or 10, couldn't the batter have that one foot partially in the batter's box [unless he was stepping parallel to the line and the side of the plate]? If he contacts the ball with one foot completely out of the box, or while stepping on HP, the batter is out.

But if he wants to snug up to HP, what's the violation?

Now, whatever happened after that regarding his attitude or whatever, I've no comment.

Ted