Rabbit Ears?

[vcblue]

My association is discussing to put in a mentoring program next year. A mentor will have at least 5 years and board approved. The mentor will receive 1/3rd of the game fee. The mentor will evaluate and work with the new umpire for at least four games. The mentor will discuss items that need improvement during, in-between and after the final game.

My association has 20 new umpires. We have completed 5 weeks of ball. 4 new umpires have been asked never to come back to certain leagues due to attitude, game management, and skills.

Originally Posted by vcblue

My association is discussing to put in a mentoring program next year. A mentor will have at least 5 years and board approved. The mentor will receive 1/3rd of the game fee. The mentor will evaluate and work with the new umpire for at least four games. The mentor will discuss items that need improvement during, in-between and after the final game.

My association has 20 new umpires. We have completed 5 weeks of ball. 4 new umpires have been asked never to come back to certain leagues due to attitude, game management, and skills.

I had a suggestion to start a mentoring program in our local association. It never really got past the association president, even though I did mention it to the UIC. How are you approaching the mentoring program?

[vcblue]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

I had a suggestion to start a mentoring program in our local association. It never really got past the association president, even though I did mention it to the UIC. How are you approaching the mentoring program?

Sometimes you have to remember you are an association. Yes, the President typically does a lot of work behind the Scenes, and should be thanked. However, sometimes they think their word is god and forget that the association has by-laws. Have the player rep (member-at-large) propose it to the group and vote on putting a program together.

Originally Posted by vcblue

Sometimes you have to remember you are an association. Yes, the President typically does a lot of work behind the Scenes, and should be thanked. However, sometimes they think their word is god and forget that the association has by-laws. Have the player rep (member-at-large) propose it to the group and vote on putting a program together.

Actually, when I meant our local association, I should have mentioned it was a corporation that runs the softball program for the city. The president is the owner of this corporation who has an advisory board, yadda yadda yadda. The umpires do have an advisory board that advises the main advisory board, yadda yadda yadda. You can see where I'm going with this.

It was just this year that our UIC's idea of having just 3 hours of clinic time for veterans with over 3 years of experience as opposed to the full 6 hours that we had been subjected to actually enacted, only because I had emailed the president myself. I went at it not from the perspective as an umpire, but as an educator, and lo and behold, my UIC was practically thanking as if I was the only one who could put the president over the hump on this.

Maybe I need to yak more with the UIC and the president, and get my nose a little brown, and just maybe, just maybe the mentoring thing will fly.

[sri8527]

first off, i never really want too bait any coach, that said, i had the plate, high school game, we have R1, going on pitch, F2 throws the ball into center field. R1 thinks about third, F8 throws behind her, bang bang play. BU comes up with a very strong safe, he was in great position, saw it, called it. D coach goes running out, says his peace and heads back to the dugout. i put the ball back in play and this guy keeps going on and on about that play, now i KNOW he is talking too his ***. coach and i also KNOW he wants me too hear it, comes back with the i can talk to my ***. coach however i want. i tell him enough, he mumbles some more, now i warn him, he stops. now the fun part, after the inning i call my partner over, stand on the first base line and in front of his dugout. i tell BU he was in great position, good call, then say, you believe this guy, from 120 feet he can see that play better than you. here he comes, he's ranting about me talking about him, i looked straight at him, said, coach just talking too my partner here, he stops, thinks for a moment, says point made, went quietly back in his hole, and yes, i would have dumped him.

steve

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by sri8527

first off, i never really want too bait any coach, that said, i had the plate, high school game, we have R1, going on pitch, F2 throws the ball into center field. R1 thinks about third, F8 throws behind her, bang bang play. BU comes up with a very strong safe, he was in great position, saw it, called it. D coach goes running out, says his peace and heads back to the dugout. i put the ball back in play and this guy keeps going on and on about that play, now i KNOW he is talking too his ***. coach and i also KNOW he wants me too hear it, comes back with the i can talk to my ***. coach however i want. i tell him enough, he mumbles some more, now i warn him, he stops. now the fun part, after the inning i call my partner over, stand on the first base line and in front of his dugout. i tell BU he was in great position, good call, then say, you believe this guy, from 120 feet he can see that play better than you. here he comes, he's ranting about me talking about him, i looked straight at him, said, coach just talking too my partner here, he stops, thinks for a moment, says point made, went quietly back in his hole, and yes, i would have dumped him.

steve

"i tell him enough, he mumbles some more, now i warn him"
To me it sounds like you warned him twice.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

"i tell him enough, he mumbles some more, now i warn him"
To me it sounds like you warned him twice.

I agree warn em.. they WILL mumble a final thing, let them have the last word and usually it will stop. You dont need to have the last word, you are the last word.

[sri8527]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

"i tell him enough, he mumbles some more, now i warn him"
To me it sounds like you warned him twice.

the problem was that the original call was not mine, i did'nt want it too look like my partner needed defending, i knew he could'nt hear him so i needed him to address me, that's why i used the "baiting" word. the first enough was for my partner, still had my mask on, just turned my head and said "that's enough". now once he responded too me, i had him "hooked", it was now up to him what happens next, he NEW he was about to leave, he stopped. like i said, this is the only time i thought someone could say i was baiting a coach, i was curious about what others thought though, i did make the point i was trying to make, and he did figure it out.

steve