NFHS Jewelry Rant

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Does it have anything that, if broken or removed, could be dangerous to herself or others (such as beads on the ribbon she's using to hold her hair back)?

Does it have anything that, even if kept in place, could be dangerous to herself or others (such as sharp edges or points)?

Is it something that, if removed, would have an adverse impact on that player's performance?

That last one is reaching, but something worth considering. If the answer is no, then your response is simple: take it off.

With the exception of the "others", why would you care?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

With the exception of the "others", why would you care?

I understand that position for adults, but for minor children, I apply a standard that also includes injury to the player.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I understand that position for adults, but for minor children, I apply a standard that also includes injury to the player.

Don't buy it. If a parent wants their daughter wear a piece of jewelry that is not dangerous to anyone else, that is their decision. If the coach wants to allow his/her player wear the same, so be it.

[Dakota]

I agree in principle; just not in practice.

[outathm]

I did have a catcher earlier this season who could have used the restraint on her arm hair, but I still wouldn't allow it in a NFHS game.

[CajunNewBlue]

I wish FED would address this properly.... you already got runners with a hard plastic helmet with a metal face shield and metal spikes/cleats on their feet.... God forbid a little plastic hair clip come undone and prick someone during a slide.
whatever.

Rant=off

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

With the exception of the "others", why would you care?

Because an injury is an injury, and it will take longer to get home if we have to wait?

I believe we were talking about kids' games. Therefore, yes, I will include that in my judgment.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I believe we were talking about kids' games. Therefore, yes, I will include that in my judgment.

Yet another often-discussed issue that means nothing to me or the way I approach the game. Contrary to the beliefs of many coaches and parents, I don't believe an umpire should be there "for the kids". Again, the kids are the responsibility of the coaches and parents. THEY are the ones who need to be there "for the kids".

As an umpire, I'm there for the game. I don't care if it is 10U or 50+ SP, "B" FP or A/Open SP, they all get the same game and general application of the appropriate rules. And before anyone starts, I am quite aware and supportive of certain allowances at different levels or ages. This is why you DON'T put your less-than-stellar or hardnose umpires on the 10U games.

[Dakota]

Even though the NFHS rules are intolerant of jewelry (where ASA includes umpire judgment regarding safety), I like the fact that the NFHS book places the responsibility squarely with the coach, the player, and the parents.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Even though the NFHS rules are intolerant of jewelry (where ASA includes umpire judgment regarding safety), I like the fact that the NFHS book places the responsibility squarely with the coach, the player, and the parents.

Maybe, but when the suit is filed, you will be included, right or not.

[topper]

I'm with Irish and CNB on this one. Fed's decision to allow HS players, many of whom are less-than-accomplished at sliding and avoiding being slid into, to wear metal cleats while banning earrings and cloth bracelets seems a little absurd. The decision to have their kids wear metal cleats lays with the coaches and parents. That's where the jewelry issue belongs as well.

And yes, if I see it, I'll have them remove it. I just don't see it. If it's pointed out to me by someone, I'll remove it since others can prove that I saw it. Until Fed requires us to perform a standardized pregame jewelry inspection, I will continue to not see it. I guess this makes me "THAT" umpire. I still don't see how this makes other's jobs more difficult. If I instruct a player to remove something, I could care less if a previous umpire didn't. I could care less if the coach complains about umpires' inconsistency on the matter. They will still have to remove it. It's not difficult to make them comply.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by topper

...Fed's decision to allow HS players, many of whom are less-than-accomplished at sliding and avoiding being slid into, to wear metal cleats while banning earrings and cloth bracelets seems a little absurd...

It is entirely consistent with their overall outlook on life and how their status, legally and organizationally, is different from ASA (for example).

1. en loco parentis is historically the role of the schools and their representatives in dealing with school children, although that has been weakened by societal mores and recent legislation.

2. Title IX has significantly impacted how the schools deal with girls sports, rules, and facilities.

#1 results in things like the jewlery rules.
#2 results in things like the metal cleats rule.

Some would argue that metal cleats are actually safer than plastic, but even if true, I suspect the overriding reason NFHS changed the rule to allow metal was "because they are legal for the boys."

And, even baseball does not allow jewelry.

NFHS Baseball Rule 1-5

ART. 12 . . . Jewelry shall not be worn (See 3-3-1d) except for religious or
medical medals.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by topper

I'm with Irish and CNB on this one.

You are a awesome umpire and a handsome man.... keep agreeing with me more!!!

love you man! (in a totally hetro way!)

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Even though the NFHS rules are intolerant of jewelry (where ASA includes umpire judgment regarding safety), I like the fact that the NFHS book places the responsibility squarely with the coach, the player, and the parents.

I see the exact opposite.... they place it firmly in our laps to NOT allow any of the ambiguously described pieces of jewelry or cosmetic devices.
Although like i explained to the coach.... hard is bad... soft is good.. he actually seemed to get it. (regarding hair containment devices)

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

I see the exact opposite.... they place it firmly in our laps to NOT allow any of the ambiguously described pieces of jewelry or cosmetic devices.
Although like i explained to the coach.... hard is bad... soft is good.. he actually seemed to get it. (regarding hair containment devices)

NFHS Rule 3-5

ART. 1 . . . Prior to the start of the game at the pregame conference, a head
coach shall be responsible for verifying to the plate umpire that all his/her players
are legally equipped, and that players and equipment are in compliance with
all NFHS rules.
PENALTY: (Art. 1) The game may not begin until the head coach attends the
pregame conference and verifies player and equipment compliance.
NOTE: Although umpires have the duty and right to inspect equipment, the responsibility
for proper equipment rests with coaches, student-athletes and their parents/guardians.