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Walk this way ?
When you're the BU and the coach requests time and wants to have a chat do you wait for the coach to come to you or do you meet coach halfway in the field ?
I generally have been meeting them half way but was wondering what blues do outside of our area .
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It depends. If I think he has a valid reason to chat or ask a question, I will meet him half way. He's agreeable, I'm agreeable and working with him.
If he wants to challenge judgment or tell me he disagrees with a call, he needs to walk all the way to me, and all the way back.
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Theres a school of thought that if you are going to eject em, lead em to the grass..
![]() If they are already coming at me, I wait for them. If they are squawking from afar, I'll close the distance.
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I agree with Wade here, and will add that if they motion or make a request, I'll meet them halfway.
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Thanx, Ted |
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Only four ejections and three were bat throwers? How long have you been umpiring? If it's more than a few seasons you either have the patience of a saint and/or work in some leagues with some very well behaved players and coaches.
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I work a diverse mix of games from both men's and women's rec softball to industrial intramural modified to a Sunday only Latino league to a JO league and JO tournaments. My ejections were two from the Church league, one Latino, and one rec 'sno-pitch [the chirpie one]. We see most of these guys/teams/coaches pretty regularly and have developed a pretty good understanding of what crosses the line. That's mostly from some of the other veteran guys I work with. For the most part the adult men 'sno-pitch leagues are the worst offenders. The women and girls are a breeze. [Oh, parents of 18-U are pretty rowdy. I would have liked to toss a couple of them. The players actually get embarrassed by their parents antics. I've heard more than once: "Dad! Knock it off, will you?"] Ted |
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On the other hand, a respectful coach gets the same hustle from me that they show on their way. If they jog out, I jog to meet them; if they walk, I walk. My feeling is, they get as much respect from me as they show me.
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if the coach is coming towards me to argue something, as long as they walk calmly, I'll let them approach me and when they get close enough, i'll take a small and slow step towards them with a "yes sir?" or "yes ma'am?" to acknowledge their presence and let them start the discussion. If they're civil about things, i'll explain things to their satisfaction and check with my partner if need be, if they're hostile, i'll say the minimal stuff and tell them conversation is over.
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Dave I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views! Screw green, it ain't easy being blue! I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again. |
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I disagree with most of you. I do not want a coach on the field. I want the conversation held outside the foul lines. If a coach is on the field when I reach him, I will walk him across the chalk lines.
Reason: when I am done, I want to walk back onto the field; that is my territory and the coach does not belong there. If he is outside the chalk lines, he can gracefully return to the dugout. If I walk away from him and leave him standing somewhere on the field, he is going to be alone - and ticked. More like to chase after me. If he is outside the chalk when I walk away, he better not cross the lines. That is asking for the parking lot. WMB |
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If it is to discuss a play or call and they want to instigate a discusson, they are coming to me with one exception. If the umpire makes a mistake which needs correcting or a brain fart (i.e. verbal safe with out signal), I would probably go to coach if s/he isn't already there ![]() I do not believe an umpire should ever move toward a player/coach who is about to question a call, ruling or heritage. It can appear to be a defensive or agressive action by the umpire and an umpire should NEVER appear defensive or agressive toward a player/coach. |
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