walk or not?

[jr]

nfhs rules, but want to know ncaa men also...

a1 takes a shot, a2 gets the rebound under team b's basket. upon going to lay the ball in (for some reason there was no team b player around), a1's shot falls short of the rim and the same player, a1, catches the attempt and lays it in. the attempt was extremely short, possibly only two feet over his head.

walk or not?

[JRutledge]

My question to you is why would this be traveling?

I will give you that answer anyway.

You cannot have traveling on a try when the shooter gets their own rebound. That is the rule at both NF and NCAA (Men's and Women's) levels. Team control has ended and anyone can get a rebound despite if the ball hits the rim or not.

Peace

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by jr
nfhs rules, but want to know ncaa men also...

a1 takes a shot, a2 gets the rebound under team b's basket. upon going to lay the ball in (for some reason there was no team b player around), a1's shot falls short of the rim and the same player, a1, catches the attempt and lays it in. the attempt was extremely short, possibly only two feet over his head.

walk or not?

Hmmm, I'm having a hard time following you, so I'm going to answer based on what I think you're saying.

When you say "the attempt was extremely short, possibly only two feet over his head," if by that you mean that the shot a1 put up only went a couple of feet into the air and wasn't really an attempted shot, then you've got a1 passing to him/herself. Violation.

If by that phrase you mean that when a1 got the rebound from a legitimate shot when s/he was only a couple of feet from the basket and had an easy lay up, it's as JRut said. Team control ends on a try, and any player, including the shooter may get the rebound.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle

When you say "the attempt was extremely short, possibly only two feet over his head," if by that you mean that the shot a1 put up only went a couple of feet into the air and wasn't really an attempted shot, then you've got a1 passing to him/herself. Violation.

C'mon, BITS. Don't confuse the issue. First, you say it's a shot, then you say it's really isn't. It tis or it tain't. Make up your mind. That isn't a pass to anyone, it's a shot. Why would a player stand in one place, toss the ball into the air for the sole purpose of catching it? BTW, where does he say that the pivot foot moved?

jr, if it's a legitimate shot attempt, then it's not a violation in college or high school.

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There Chuckk, is that better!?!

[ChuckElias]

You guys are all missing the point. It's a trick question.

Originally posted by jr
a1 takes a shot, a2 gets the rebound under team b's basket. upon going to lay the ball in (for some reason there was no team b player around), a1's shot falls short of the rim and the same player, a1, catches the attempt

If A is shooting at Team B's basket, there can be no try.

[jr]

good job, chuck...i was waiting for the correct answer...

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
C'mon, BITS. Don't confuse the issue. First, you say it's a shot, then you say it's really isn't. It tis or it tain't. Make up your mind. That isn't a pass to anyone, it's a shot. Why would a player stand in one place, toss the ball into the air for the sole purpose of catching it? BTW, where does he say that the pivot foot moved?

I didn't say it twas or it twasn't, and in fact, that was the gist of what I was saying. It's a judgement call. If it is a shot, you've got nothing. If it's a pass to himself, you've got a different situation.

Why would a player toss it to himself? The most obvious answer, to me, is an ill-conceived attempt to get a new dribble by faking a shot. BTW, he never said the player stood in one place and tossed the ball in the air for the purpose of catching it, and neither did I. He only said that the shot "was extremely short, possibly only two feet over his head."

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
You guys are all missing the point. It's a trick question.

If A is shooting at Team B's basket, there can be no try.

Then something's wrong, because what A1 did initially is NOT a shot...or that ball has way too much air in it.

Anyway it might be fun watching Tony & BITS fight about this for a while...

:Popcorn:

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Then something's wrong, because what A1 did initially is NOT a shot...or that ball has way too much air in it.

A1 took a long 3-point try and A2 chased down the rebound in the backcourt?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
You guys are all missing the point. It's a trick question.

If A is shooting at Team B's basket, there can be no try.

Chuck:

I am not getting involved in this thread, because it is all ready making my head hurt.

MTD, Sr.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
He only said that the shot "was extremely short, possibly only two feet over his head."

Maybe the guy is 7'6"!

I'm just raggin' BITS. Chuck wrote me and mentioned that I hadn't been posting much. So I gave him a little fodder.

But it still ain't traveling, even if under B's basket, if he doesn't move his pivot.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Maybe the guy is 7'6"!

I'm just raggin' BITS. Chuck wrote me and mentioned that I hadn't been posting much. So I gave him a little fodder.

But it still ain't traveling, even if under B's basket, if he doesn't move his pivot.

I hope Dan can get his money back on his popcorn. He was expecting this to go three rounds, at least

And, obviously, you are correct about the pivot foot. I likely would have said it myself orginially if I had had my morning coffee by then.

[Dan_ref]

Ahhh...I can feel the love...everybody together! You know the words!

I'd like to teach the world to sing...

BTW Tony I believe Chuck already is a little fodder

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
BTW Tony I believe Chuck already is a little fodder

Can you say that here? I thought this was a family-friendly place

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle

Can you say that here? I thought this was a family-friendly place

Yep, and Chuck's family is quite happy to have him as the fodder (hint hint..)