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Old Sun Mar 01, 2009, 01:32pm
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Kind of hard to follow the converstation with out posting what you are talking about.

I take it that NFHS says you can substitue for the courtesy runner. Is that correct?
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Old Sun Mar 01, 2009, 01:49pm
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The case book play and the rules are referenced. Do you not have an NFHS rule book and case book? And, yes, the NFHS case play says a pinch runner for the CR is legal, and that the pitcher (who was being run for in the case play) has left the game.
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Old Mon Mar 02, 2009, 11:01pm
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checking again

Between this string and a newer one on when a player actually leaves the game, I'd like to touch upon the CR piece again.

A couple of replies earlier said that if the CR became injured, she could be replaced by either the player she was running for in the first place [and not affect that player's status] or a legal substitute, i.e. a pinch runner. The pinch runner would cause the pitcher or catcher for whom she is running to leave the game. Said replaced player could re-enter if that was her first time out of the game.

Now back to the courtesy runner. Since she hasn't been in the game in a capacity other than CR, I think I'm hearing that if she's OK later in the game she could be a CR again [for her original player matchup] or enter the game in any other position/batting slot as a substitute.

I guess my agita comes from the injury rule where a player cannot come back into the game [excepting if it was a blood rule issue].

Thanx for any clarity. Either ASA or NFHS.

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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 12:53am
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... the injury rule where a player cannot come back into the game...
There is no such rule. An injured player may certainly re-enter later in the game if the player has a re-entry remaining (exception: NFHS where the injured player was rendered unconscious). Don't generalize the shorthanded rule to all injury situations. In ASA, if a team goes shorthanded, the player that left the game (for whatever reason - injury, dance lessons, grandmother's birthday,...) may not re-enter, unless the team played shorthanded temporarily under the blood rule.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 08:21am
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Now back to the courtesy runner. Since she hasn't been in the game in a capacity other than CR, I think I'm hearing that if she's OK later in the game she could be a CR again [for her original player matchup] or enter the game in any other position/batting slot as a substitute.
Agree with the general response, but would like to point out that the CR is "matched up" with a position, not a particular player.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 08:36am
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Thanx Dakota - I probably was generalizing a bit too much. In the back of my mind I was thinking about the shorthanded rule and someone who might have left the game. Clearly, if a team still had the option of a CR, and that player was hurt and left the game, it would not affect the batting order or defensive positions.

Thanx Irish - yes, not a specific player matchup as I wrote. It could be a different player in a different part of the batting order later in the game. Key is the player who last played the position and earned her own way on base.

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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 08:33pm
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Do not carry my casebook with me. Have to go to public library to use internet.

Usually on the BB board, posters give a reference and post it. That is my recollection.
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