NFHS Test question

[youngump]

So the test has a question to the effect of whether you can substitute for a courtesy runner.

I came to the conclusion that you could not by reading 8-9-6 which states that once a courtesy runner is on base the catcher or pitcher cannot replace her. And further that a courtesy runner can't run for another courtesy runner. Apparently that conclusion isn't what the NFHS folks came up with. Can somebody please point me at the section in the rules I should read to see what they were thinking?
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[Stu Clary]

You may want to re-read 8-9-6. Also, check out 8-9-6-f in the case book.

[Tru_in_Blu]

If the courtesy runner is injured or disqualified, the player for whom she is running (pitcher or catcher) may return to run the bases or a legal substitute may be entered.

If a substitute is made, it is for the pitcher or catcher. Re-entry rules must then be followed.

What I'm not sure about is if a courtesy runner leaves the game due to injury or blood rule, and later on in the game she is OK again [i.e. blood bandaged or clothing changed or sore ankle OK and was not rendered unconscious] can she still serve as a courtesy runner or even as a legal substitute?

Ted

[argodad]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

If the courtesy runner is injured or disqualified, the player for whom she is running (pitcher or catcher) may return to run the bases or a legal substitute may be entered.

If a substitute is made, it is for the pitcher or catcher. Re-entry rules must then be followed.

What I'm not sure about is if a courtesy runner leaves the game due to injury or blood rule, and later on in the game she is OK again [i.e. blood bandaged or clothing changed or sore ankle OK and was not rendered unconscious] can she still serve as a courtesy runner or even as a legal substitute?

Ted

As long as she is still eligible to be a CR (hasn't otherwise played in the game), she may still be the CR for the position she CR'd for in the first place.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by Stu Clary

You may want to re-read 8-9-6. Also, check out 8-9-6-f in the case book.

The case book play is clear enough. But is there any actual rule in the book that supports it? I'm just not seeing it in 8-9-6.
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[Az.Ump]

youngump,

Is there anything in 8-9 that is an exception to 3-3 arts 2 and 5?

Paul

[youngump]

Originally Posted by Az.Ump

youngump,

Is there anything in 8-9 that is an exception to 3-3 arts 2 and 5?

Paul

I accept that the rules allow one to substitute for the pitcher/catcher. But that does not mean that it's legal to put the subsituted player on base. 8-9-6 makes it clear that the pitcher could not return to base so why should the substitute have more rights than the player being replaced? (Besides the case play which as noted is very clear.)
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[Dakota]

A couple of points: 8-9-6 says two things about replacing the CR on bases (barring injury):

1) The player the CR is running for may not replace the CR on base, and
2) The CR may not be replaced by a CR.

The rule does not say the CR cannot be replaced by ANYONE, only these two things, above, may not happen. That, of course, leaves replacing the CR with an eligible sub, commonly called a pinch runner. The only question remaining is, who is the pinch runner subbing for? That, of course, is for the player currently in that position in the batting order, or, the player being run for by the CR. The original CR still has not legally entered the game, except as a CR.