Another ASA Play

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You are discussing baseball just by indicating their method of player designation. You didn't pay attention to JJ in the OBS/INT portion, did you?



So did I at the Cimmaron, Louies and the Bombay Club. And that fiasco from Reg 14. Good food and door prizes, but four hundred umpires and they only buy two kegs and put a 3rd on hold. I can understand not wanting everyone there all night, but damn, to run out of beer is just sinful

Maybe running out of 3.2 beer is a blessing.

And what was up with the bar closing at 11pm on Thursday?

[rwest]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

The BR is always referred to as the BR until the time she becomes a runner. In the course of one play, the BR will not become a R. I know of no one who describes plays in that manner, unless it is the little ball folk.

This year for the first time I've noticed that just by definition this is not necessarily the case. I agree with your nomenclature and thats how I've always thought of and used the terms but the definitions indicate something else. I've read the rule book every year for the past seven years and have just noticed this this year.

Batter Runner: A player who has completed a turn at bat but has not yet been put out or reached first base.

Runner: An offensive player who has reached first base and has not yet been put out or scored.

So B1 lays down a bunt, between home and 1st she is a batter runner, by definition. Once she reaches first she now, by definition, becomes a runner.

I know there is language throughout the book that uses batter-runner rounding first base (i.e. the Look Back Rule, taking batter-runner to first base, etc), however, the definition disagrees with this.

Has anyone else every noticed the discrepancy in the definition and how its used in the book?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by rwest

Has anyone else every noticed the discrepency in the definition and how its used in the book?

It is a matter of communicating in an effectual and understandable manner.

Enough people have a problem dealing with the player designations at the beginning of a play. Could you imagine how difficult it would be if it changed midplay?

B4, with a 3-2 count, hits a ball to RC. Seeing the ball get past F9, the BR moves wide into foul territory to round 1B. Still watching the ball, R4 bumps into F3 and ....

Three separate designations of a player in a single play that isn't even over yet.