What's the Call

Skahtboi · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 07, 2009, 09:04am

Well...since runners should be given an opportunity to complete their base running responsibilities, I guess we should hesistate to see what the runner does before awarding the base we thought they would have attained had the OBS not occurred. If they return to third, assume the retouch and then make your award (which for me would probably be the base they are currently standing on.) If they get up and scurry home, then honor the appeal.

I know with you there is a catch somewhere, so I will patiently wait and see what other answers are given.

MGKBLUE · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 07, 2009, 01:20pm

Under rule supplement 36 the umpire will need to judge whether the runner committed another violation and that violation is being played upon.

The example given in the rule supplement is as follows:

A runner leaving second base too soon on a fly ball is returning after the ball is caught and is obstructed between second and thrid base. If the runner would not have made it back to second base prior to the throw arriving, the runner remains out.

Dakota · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 07, 2009, 01:59pm

In the OP, the appeal came after the tag out. While not stated very clearly, the tag was apparently just a tag, not a live ball appeal.

DeputyUICHousto · #4 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 07, 2009, 05:21pm

Once an obstructed runner is played on and put out the ball is dead.

IRISHMAFIA · #5 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 07, 2009, 05:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota

In the OP, the appeal came after the tag out. While not stated very clearly, the tag was apparently just a tag, not a live ball appeal.

Get new glasses and take the events in order offered

Dakota · #6 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 07, 2009, 07:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Get new glasses and take the events in order offered

OK, but I guess I need something besides new glasses...

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

(1)R1 misses 3B enroute to the plate,
(2)but realizes he will be put out
(3)and reverses direction.
(4)While attempting to return to 3B, R1 is obstructed
(5)and tagged out by F5.
(6)Defense immediately appeals the runner missing 3B.

What in there implies the tag was a live ball appeal?

IRISHMAFIA · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 08, 2009, 09:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota

OK, but I guess I need something besides new glasses...
What in there implies the tag was a live ball appeal?

It doesn't and never meant to insinuate a live ball appeal. You are reading into it.

The status of the appeal is actually determined by the actions of defense and the manner in which the umpire addresses the play

pollywolly60 · #8 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 08, 2009, 01:51pm

On proper appeal of runner missing 3rd base, the runner is out.

( see RS 36 )

Dakota · #9 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 08, 2009, 03:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

It doesn't and never meant to insinuate a live ball appeal. You are reading into it.

The status of the appeal is actually determined by the actions of defense and the manner in which the umpire addresses the play

I never said it was a live ball appeal; I said it apparently was not, but the situation as stated left room for some doubt.

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