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Old Tue Dec 16, 2008, 01:11pm
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2. Already in the diamond, no decision to go in or stay out.
Sorry, don't understand this one.

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3. Better position for base hit or line drive to right with possible throw to first.
Don't necessarily agree with this one. I agree it is a decent position for that scenario, just don't know if it is actually better.

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5. Base hit to left or center can stay outside the diamond and allows you to keep the four elements in front of you (with button hook you take eyes off the ball and turn back to the ball).
Don't buy that, especially in a two-umpire system. The "keeping the ball in front of you" is extremely over-rated when the ball not in or on route to the vicinity of the play. To me, it is more important to see the player touch and round 1B than it is watching a ball rolling on the ground in the outfield.

And how does watching a ball in left/center allow you to keep the runner rounding 1B in front of you? "You cannot have a play without the ball". Well, that is true....and false. Without the ball, you can have a missed base, interference, obstruction and assisting a runner.

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7. On fly balls the slot allows you to track the ball without immediately making a decision to go in or out.
At times.


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9. Moving toward the play at first instead of away from it.
Only makes a difference with a lazy umpire.

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10. Away from the first base coach, which prevents socializing between umpire and coach and cuts down on the base coach being nitpicky about the opponent’s pitcher.
A "socializing" umpire is going to socialize with anyone. Moving them away from the coach isn't going to change that or stop the coach from complaining about a pitcher. And since the umpire is farther away, that means s/he is going to be a bit louder about it.

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Foul Line

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1. Must go into foul territory for ball hit to right for possible play at first and balls hit between the first and second baseman.
I don't see this as a negative.

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3. Base umpire (as a general rule) will bail out on bounding balls down the line or pop ups in the vicinity of first base to the out of play area. (That is why we went from the base umpire not covering the line on bounding balls, to covering from the base and beyond and now back to not covering the line on bounding balls).
You need to define "bail out" . If you mean avoiding being involved in a play, no doubt. If you mean running for your life!!!!! This is why a poor infielder make the best umpires. They know how to get out of the way of a ground ball . Assuming an NCAA game will always have lines on the field, I have no problem with BU handling F/F from the front of the base. Even when avoiding a bounding ball, the BU is still in the best position to see the ball in relation to the base, IMO.

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4. Most umpires, because they have been indoctrinated to do so, button hook into the diamond on all balls that leave the infield even though on balls hit to left or center it is better coverage to stay outside the diamond (allows you to keep the four elements in front of you). With the buttonhook you take your eyes off the ball and turn your back to the ball.
Same response as above. An umpire who works at their game doesn't always need to have a visual to know where the ball is. There is more to the game than just what one can see.

Slot

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3. Cannot see the front edge of the pitchers plate or the back edge if the pitcher’s foot is minutely off the plate.
You probably aren't going to see it even if it is not minute


Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with the position. I just think in the FP game, it moves the BU from the most advantageous position for observing the pitcher and batter with no runner on base.

And, BTW, the pitchers that do cheat, know you are not going to get a good look when off the line and will use that to their advantage.

Last edited by IRISHMAFIA; Tue Dec 16, 2008 at 01:13pm.
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