2009 ASA Rule Changes Approved

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

OK, so the original "Men's FP catcher can use courtesy runner " is missing the word only, as in Men's FP catcher only can use courtesy runner
or
All FP levels have the CR rule like JO, except mens' pitchers.

I think I would wait for the official interp before assuming that. In the Playing Rules Committee, the chairperson opined that if both passed at the same time, the more overriding rule would apply, not the more limiting rule.

I don't believe the intent of the body was to allow CR for pitcher and catcher for all, and then immediately limit that. Both were approved by Consent Agenda at the Council without discussion, as each were considered a good change.

It will interesting to see how the NUS decides to address the discrepancy.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

It will interesting to see how the NUS decides to address the discrepancy.

Steve,

Some good discussions in the lobby last night. Already talk of adding a courtesy foul to the SP rule, but we already talked about that.

You are probably right about the men's FP pitcher, but you never know about these things. The one thing for certain is that it does not apply to all players, just those presently designated in the present JO rule.

I missed the rules portion of the Commissioners' Meeting, but from what I understand, KR addressed a handful of rules which will need to be massaged prior to implementation.

Apparently, there were some serious misunderstandings with a code change or two that will need to be addressed and clarified.

Leah O'Brien Amico stopped by for a while. Apparently, she is going to cover the BOD meeting for one of the player reps (maybe Stacey).

ISF report revealed that when a completed survey of all sports (softball finished in something like the top 40% of all sports in any category), it is believed that the IOC members never read this report since the results were too good to ignore.

Those in the know are cautiously optimistic as to the chances of getting back into the Olympics.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Steve,

ISF report revealed that when a completed survey of all sports (softball finished in something like the top 40% of all sports in any category), it is believed that the IOC members either never read this report since the results were too good to ignore.

Those in the know are cautiously optimistic as to the chances of getting back into the Olympics.

Thanks for the update on that mike!

[mach3]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

ISF report revealed that when a completed survey of all sports (softball finished in something like the top 40% of all sports in any category), it is believed that the IOC members never read this report since the results were too good to ignore.

Mike,

sorry but I don't get the point of this part of your post. Might be because I am not a native speaker! Can you explain what's about the report and the use or non-use of it?

THX

Raoul

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by mach3

Mike,

sorry but I don't get the point of this part of your post. Might be because I am not a native speaker! Can you explain what's about the report and the use or non-use of it?

THX

Raoul

To the best of my knowledge, a survey was taken of those involved in the Olympics (all facets: participants, vendores, sponsors, etc.) which reflected softball being in the top 40% of all summer Olympic sports which means it is popular, a good fan draw and a money maker.

The ISF & ASA believe that if the IOC members actually read this report (assuming it was made available to them by the Chair), there would not have been a question and softball would have easily retained it's position in the games.

This is my perception of second hand information provided at the commissioner's meeting of the ASA. As I said, they are cautiously optimistic for 2016.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

I think I would wait for the official interp before assuming that. In the Playing Rules Committee, the chairperson opined that if both passed at the same time, the more overriding rule would apply, not the more limiting rule.

I don't believe the intent of the body was to allow CR for pitcher and catcher for all, and then immediately limit that. Both were approved by Consent Agenda at the Council without discussion, as each were considered a good change.

It will interesting to see how the NUS decides to address the discrepancy.

Received by email the Official Rule Changes, about to be posted.

They eliminated completely the "catcher only" version, and have published:

Rule 8 Section 10: (All Fast Pitch)
Comment: All Fast Pitch will follow the Courtesy runner rule previously used only by the Junior Olympic Classification of Girls and Boys.

[SRW]

Here ya go everyone:

http://downloads.asasoftball.com/ump...RulesFinal.pdf

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by SRW

Here ya go everyone:

http://downloads.asasoftball.com/ump...RulesFinal.pdf

Thanks SRW.