ASA Rule Changes

[IRISHMAFIA]

Don't see the unreported sub change on either list. Did it make too much sense to be considered?

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

In my observations on the subcommittees I observed, it will probably pass.

Ooh, sorry I missed that one. I agree with Steve, this will most likely pass.

The 1-1 count seems to be a positive change. Too many people think this is a speed-up rule. It is not. It is a rule change to encourage the batters to put the ball into play. Games with a 3-2 count are not that much shorter than games with a 4-3 count.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

The 1-1 count seems to be a positive change. Too many people think this is a speed-up rule. It is not. It is a rule change to encourage the batters to put the ball into play. Games with a 3-2 count are not that much shorter than games with a 4-3 count.

I couldn't disagree more. I call in two leagues, one that starts with a 1-1 and one that starts with the regular 0-0 count. The league with the 1-1 quite consistently has their games end much sooner than the league that doesn't go with the 1-1. Remember that 13-inning game that ended in an hour and 25 minutes? Yep, 1-1.

Look the games are short enough as it is: usually an hour, give or take 5-10 minutes. Most SP tournaments are able to keep with the schedule with only a few going over their time slots.

I do see the advantage that a 1-1 gives a pitcher, as the batters won't wait until they have 1 or 2 strikes before taking a swing. They become less "choosey" and more willing to hit a ball that isn't their "perfect pitch."

Still, I think it's unnecessary. Do we really want 45-minute games? Hell, I've even had 30-minute games with a 1-1.

It's just silly. Leave it alone.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I couldn't disagree more. I call in two leagues, one that starts with a 1-1 and one that starts with the regular 0-0 count. The league with the 1-1 quite consistently has their games end much sooner than the league that doesn't go with the 1-1. Remember that 13-inning game that ended in an hour and 25 minutes? Yep, 1-1.

Of course, that couldn't be because one team has a better defense to handle the ball being put into play more often, could it?

Look the games are short enough as it is: usually an hour, give or take 5-10 minutes. Most SP tournaments are able to keep with the schedule with only a few going over their time slots.

The game is 7 innings unless one team is dominant which would happen regardless of the count.

I do see the advantage that a 1-1 gives a pitcher, as the batters won't wait until they have 1 or 2 strikes before taking a swing. They become less "choosey" and more willing to hit a ball that isn't their "perfect pitch."

Which is sort of the idea. It isn't as though the change only took away a strike. It also took away a ball. The game isn't about the perfect pitch, it is about a pitch which is either a strike or a ball. If FP is 4-3, why shouldn't a game in which it is much easier to pitch and the pitch is much easier to hit be the same?

Still, I think it's unnecessary. Do we really want 45-minute games? Hell, I've even had 30-minute games with a 1-1.

Then the players in your area must suck. The game in my area with a 1-1 count take 60-75 minutes unless abbreviated by a run rule.

But this should make you happy. The proposed rule change has be amended to exclude the Masters and Senior games.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Then the players in your area must suck. The game in my area with a 1-1 count take 60-75 minutes unless abbreviated by a run rule.

Rubbish! The players in my area can actually get outs.

But seriously, I don't think the game of SP needs to be modified like this. Same kind of thinking that went behind the 4' wide batters' boxes.

[wadeintothem]

Good, less is more. I wouldnt have mind seeing metal spikes allowed, if only because I hate having to deal with that issue so much.

Glad to see the crash interference issue failing.

The cracks in the bat is obviously a direct shot at the Stealths and the issues with it at nationals.


Thank you for taking the time to keep us updated mike, it is appreciated.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Good, less is more. I wouldnt have mind seeing metal spikes allowed, if only because I hate having to deal with that issue so much.

Glad to see the crash interference issue failing.

The cracks in the bat is obviously a direct shot at the Stealths and the issues with it at nationals.


Thank you for taking the time to keep us updated mike, it is appreciated.

What happened with the Stealths?

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

What happened with the Stealths?

This was pretty much the scene at many nationals, confiscated stealths

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

What happened with the Stealths?

Point A, there are no rule changes which address the "Stealth Issues".

Point B, this isn't even close to the change of the BB changing to 4'.

Thanks