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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 12:10pm
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ASA Rule Changes

These are just my opinions based on the results and discussions from certain committees. However, nothing is ever in or out until approved by the general council.

What looks good to pass:

No charged conference it the pitcher is removed from the position.

Requiring certification mark on bats

Including dents along with burrs and visible cracks to bat specs

Approved multiple piece bats

Moving to optic yellow ball only by 2010

HR limits for women's SP

Change 20-second violation penalty to a ball on the batter as opposed to IP

SP batter entering box with a 1-1 count

Runner assistance violation during a dead ball period.

What doesn't look good to pass:

Strike mat definition

Double plate for Co-Ed

Restricting bank construction to wood and single aluminum

Removing 11" ball from Co-Ed play

Any change in the rules referring to changing the SP stealing rules.

Removing metal spikes from men's SP

Just about any change in JO metal spikes rules

Adding an 11th fielder in SP

Requiring a coach dress code

Changing SP height to 10'

6-warm ups, 3 with each ball in the Co-Ed game

Penalty for intentionally removing field markings

Change in rule for allowing a deflected batted ball leaving play in fair territory

Crashing into a defender without the ball

Incorporating a specific "lighting safety guidelines" in the rules.
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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 12:18pm
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These are just my opinions based on the results and discussions from certain committees. However, nothing is ever in or out until approved by the general council.

What looks good to pass:

No charged conference it the pitcher is removed from the position.

Requiring certification mark on bats

Including dents along with burrs and visible cracks to bat specs

Approved multiple piece bats

Moving to optic yellow ball only by 2010

HR limits for women's SP

Change 20-second violation penalty to a ball on the batter as opposed to IP

SP batter entering box with a 1-1 count

Runner assistance violation during a dead ball period.

What doesn't look good to pass:

Strike mat definition

Double plate for Co-Ed

Restricting bank construction to wood and single aluminum

Removing 11" ball from Co-Ed play

Any change in the rules referring to changing the SP stealing rules.

Removing metal spikes from men's SP

Just about any change in JO metal spikes rules

Adding an 11th fielder in SP

Requiring a coach dress code

Changing SP height to 10'

6-warm ups, 3 with each ball in the Co-Ed game

Penalty for intentionally removing field markings

Change in rule for allowing a deflected batted ball leaving play in fair territory

Crashing into a defender without the ball

Incorporating a specific "lighting safety guidelines" in the rules.
Good (agree with where this is - likely to pass or unlikely to pass)

Too bad this is unlikely to make it

The rest: indifferent about.
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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 12:21pm
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Not sure I'm happy with the possibility of a 1-1 count in SP. Is the game REALLY taking that long? C'mon... Most SP games are done in an hour, give or take 5 minutes.

And considering my previous post, I'd say I've got a pretty good gauge on how long a SP game should take.
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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 01:24pm
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Don't see the unreported sub change on either list. Did it make too much sense to be considered?
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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 02:01pm
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Don't see the unreported sub change on either list. Did it make too much sense to be considered?
In my observations on the subcommittees I observed, it will probably pass.

The other rule changes I think need to happen that now look like they won't are 43' for 16U FP, and a 10 second rule for batters.

To those of you unfamiliar with the process, the proposed rule changes go through numerous subcommittees. On Wednesday, proposed playing rule changes go to the Playing Rules Committee and propsed Code changes to the Legislative Committee. Each of those committees present a "Consent Agenda" of recommendations to the full council, after hearing the subcommittee recommendations (but not required to agree or adopt those opinions).

On Thursday, the full council (about 280 voting members, right now) will vote; but, it requires a 60% plus 1 majority to override the recommendations of the "main" committeess. There are 70 votes on the Playing Rules Committee (I am one); there are 63 votes on Legislative.
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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 02:03pm
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...The other rule changes I think need to happen that now look like they won't are 43' for 16U FP, and a 10 second rule for batters.
Curious about the 10 second rule. Why do you think a change there needs to happen?
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Old Mon Nov 10, 2008, 02:17pm
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Don't see the unreported sub change on either list. Did it make too much sense to be considered?
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In my observations on the subcommittees I observed, it will probably pass.
Ooh, sorry I missed that one. I agree with Steve, this will most likely pass.

The 1-1 count seems to be a positive change. Too many people think this is a speed-up rule. It is not. It is a rule change to encourage the batters to put the ball into play. Games with a 3-2 count are not that much shorter than games with a 4-3 count.
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What looks good to pass:

Requiring certification mark on bats
Love it.

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SP batter entering box with a 1-1 count
Unecessary IMO.

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Runner assistance violation during a dead ball period.
It'll be nice to have that cleared up.

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What doesn't look good to pass:

Removing 11" ball from Co-Ed play
Bummer, this is a pointless rule IMO.

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Incorporating a specific "lighting safety guidelines" in the rules.
I'm surprised this isn't looking like it will pass.

Thanks for the information, Irish.
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