Did anybody see...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

And that, my friends, is why SRW wears a steel cup. If your balls were audible, you would too.

Doesn't that create a tinny echo?

[NDblue]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

BTW, I'm convinced the Fox pitch locator is showing where the ball is caught.

It's kinda cool technology but I agree with you that it's showing where the ball is caught, not where it's entering the strike zone. I'm a huge Phillies fan and tonight's HP sucked. His strike zone was everywhere but at least he was consistently bad for both teams. I thought he was leaning a little towards Hamels but he did miss a few for him as well. I was waiting for Victorino to come unglued on "blue" for that waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay outside pitch he called a strike. Now I'm just waiting for this game to get back underway so that Philly can finally have another World Series title.

[BretMan]

Your wait will only be about 20 more hours...

[NDblue]

I know and it sucks but there's nothing anybody can do about Mother Nature. I thought it should have been suspended a half inning earlier. I know Bud Selig would never allow the game to not be completed but that field was getting sloppy.

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Doesn't that create a tinny echo?

I had to read that twice...first time I thought it said TINY.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

I had to read that twice...first time I thought it said TINY.

You were not alone. I read it that way initially and laughed. I came back through the thread and read it a second time later and realized it said TINNY. I laughed even harder.

I am easily amused...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NDblue

I know and it sucks but there's nothing anybody can do about Mother Nature. I thought it should have been suspended a half inning earlier. I know Bud Selig would never allow the game to not be completed but that field was getting sloppy.

My buddies and I called it early. When I walked into the bar to watch MNF, I told the owner that the baseball game would be called because we were already getting a heavy rain and knew it would hit Philly shortly. Once it started, weconcluded that if would have been called in the 5th if there was any indication on the radar that showed a chance it would stop. However, if there was no gap in the storm, they would take it as far as possible before it got completely ridiculous.

Well, we were somewhat right because it did get pretty bad. What is more ridiculous is all the BS about how Bud Selig is ruining the WS and you have idiots writing columns about how the game should be be called and awarded to the Phillies because they are past 4 1/2 innings, yada, yada, yada. We are in one screwed up country when the slightest little thing like stopping a baseball game due to bad weather is the leading subject of the news and everyone has to find fault with someone for life to go on.

I think we should change the name of this country to the United State of Chicken Little.

[Dakota]

Funny... the game suspension caused no controversy in the heartland beyond pretty straightforward reporting of the situation... must be an Philly and the 'burbs issue.

There was one silly comment that the Rays scoring in the top of the 6th took the pretend commissioner "off the hook" regarding declaring the game official.

Personally, I'm all for any situation that shows up the pretend commissioner for the inept sleeze that he is. Too bad he didn't declare the game official and the series over.

[NCASAUmp]

Hey, damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you were behind the plate in an 18U Gold National Championship in OKC in the top of the 6th inning, and the visitors tied it up with field conditions as bad as last night's and NO chance of improvement in the weather... What would you do?

Look, he made the right call, and it's his call to make. You'd get pissed if someone criticized you for making your own calls, so why criticize him?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Hey, damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you were behind the plate in an 18U Gold National Championship in OKC in the top of the 6th inning, and the visitors tied it up with field conditions as bad as last night's and NO chance of improvement in the weather... What would you do?

Look, he made the right call, and it's his call to make. You'd get pissed if someone criticized you for making your own calls, so why criticize him?

You misunderstand. I wasn't criticizing his decision to suspend the game; it was the right thing to do (perhaps a nit could be picked that it was a little too late...).

I was hoping he would declare the game official, take the Rays run off the board, and declare the Phillies the World Champions because of the s---storm that would follow... all directed at the pretend commissioner. IMO, He is a sleazy individual who has not done anything in "the best interest of baseball" his entire time in office, including his time as acting commissioner (at least then his title was honest).

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Hey, damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you were behind the plate in an 18U Gold National Championship in OKC in the top of the 6th inning, and the visitors tied it up with field conditions as bad as last night's and NO chance of improvement in the weather... What would you do?

Look, he made the right call, and it's his call to make. You'd get pissed if someone criticized you for making your own calls, so why criticize him?

Well, if I were behind the plate doing the 18U Gold National:
1. We'd obviously have to be in a parallel universe, cuz they ain't stickin someone like me back there in this universe.
2. It would be MY call to make on whether it's playable.

There's no doubt the game should have been called. I wish MLB would be smart enuf to have a rule that if it's suspended you pick it up from that spot when you are in the World Serious. This isn't the first time we've dealt with bad conditions and tried to play...maybe the worst, but not the only.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Dakota

IMO, He is a sleazy individual who has not done anything in "the best interest of baseball" his entire time in office, including his time as acting commissioner (at least then his title was honest).

I'm just curious as to what you have based your opinions on. Personally, I have no real issues with the job Selig has done as commish. Certainly not as much as I had with say, Ford Frick and his *.

Selig has overseen the financial turnaround of baseball with a 400 percent increase in the revenue of MLB and annual record breaking attendance. Look at the state the game was in during the late 80's and early 90's. If for no other reason, his tenure could be termed a "success" because of this. He also introduced the Wild Card, a move that has not only involved more fans being interested in post season play, but has also led to some interesting and exciting stories of post season play. (Case in point both Marlins' WS titles.) Yes, he is more loved by the owners than anyone else involved with the game, largely because of his perspectives as a one time baseball owner himself. And yes, there have been some downsides to his tenure as well, but no more than some others we could name.

[Skahtboi]

By the way, I am just looking at my above post from a historical perspective as far as the game goes, without any concern of "personalities" of various commissioners.

[IRISHMAFIA]

If anyone is wondering why SteveM isn't posting, it is because he is probably out shoveling snow. Weather reports from his area are mentioning 6-7 inches of snow so far today.

BTW, the Tampa team had no hotel last night. The team checked out prior to the game, anticipating flying out of Philadelphia after the game. They could not find any rooms in the Philly area, so they ended up at the Hotel Dupont in Wilmington, DE. I wonder if they have checked out already, assuming a flight home or are holding the rooms, just in case they do not play. It is still raining in Philly, and snowing just North of the city.

They really need to back off the length of the season.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I'm just curious as to what you have based your opinions on. Personally, I have no real issues with the job Selig has done as commish. Certainly not as much as I had with say, Ford Frick and his *.

Selig has overseen the financial turnaround of baseball with a 400 percent increase in the revenue of MLB and annual record breaking attendance. Look at the state the game was in during the late 80's and early 90's. If for no other reason, his tenure could be termed a "success" because of this. He also introduced the Wild Card, a move that has not only involved more fans being interested in post season play, but has also led to some interesting and exciting stories of post season play. (Case in point both Marlins' WS titles.) Yes, he is more loved by the owners than anyone else involved with the game, largely because of his perspectives as a one time baseball owner himself. And yes, there have been some downsides to his tenure as well, but no more than some others we could name.

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

By the way, I am just looking at my above post from a historical perspective as far as the game goes, without any concern of "personalities" of various commissioners.

Until recently, he was the owner of the Brewers. The "ownership" by his daughter was a sham. He was the owner. He and Carl Pohlad collaborated to use MLB money to both enrich Pohlad and contract the Twins. Pohlad viewed this as win-win... either he gets more for the team than he could by selling it to a real buyer, or he succeeds in browbeating local politicians into building him a stadium.

Selig's much ballyhooed financial "success" of MLB was engineered on the backs of chemical abuse by the players, which he turned a blind eye to until he was forced to face up to it (sort of).

As acting commissioner, he presided over the only complete cancellation of the postseason, including the world series, because of the strike of 1994. The strike was long and bitter, brought on by a well-deserved complete distrust of Selig by the player's union... Selig had been caught colluding with owners to rig the signing of free agents. The 1994 strike was forced to end when federal judge Sonia Sotomayor issued a preliminary injunction against the owners on March 31, 1995.

Shall I go on?