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seems like overumpiring
With all due respect Bretman, this seems like over umpiring to me. I don't know about your fall league in Ohio, but all the fall ball league experiences I have had in SE Texas, the leagues were instructional in nature and not to be officiated like a National tournament.......
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When I was a kid, I played in a tournament under ASA rules. The league I played in allowed us 5 warm-ups the first inning, 3 each subsequent. Fortunately, the plate umpire at the tourney said to me in the first inning, "you get 3, pitcher." I was surprised, and I asked her, "don't I get 5?" "Nope, must be a local rule." "Oh. Okay!" I was glad she didn't keep a silent count. Then again, we stomped that team 16-0 anyway. ![]()
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Why can't the "instructional in nature" extend to teaching the teams the expected behavior between innings and the rules that should be enforced during their "real" games that count? I hear that a lot- "It's only fall ball". Sure, maybe the games are more laid back and than your typical travel ball tournament, but I don't see that as an excuse for an umpire to throw good game management and rule enforcement out the window. Again, I will note that the "between inning" conduct for this league was a point of emphasis by the league organizers. All of the coaches received written instruction to this effect with their league rules. We have been asked to cover this with coaches at the pre-game conference. The folks that run the league- ie: pay our salary- have requested that the umpires enforce these rules to minimize downtime and field scheduling issues, while maximizing playing time for the participants. In light of all that, if I just ignored those directives, because "It's only fall ball", that would strike me as a bad case of under-umpiring. Last edited by BretMan; Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 09:40am. |
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Those of you who do not favor enforcing the timing rules in instructional / fall / rec games, remember this: these games are timed, and the players will get precious few times in the field and at bats as it is. By enforcing the timing rules, you are maximizing the playing time (the reason both teams are there) and minimizing the lollygagging time.
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the "6th" warm up pitch rule, calling a ball on the batter. Once the ten second rule on the batter after the pitcher having the ball. All the coaches involved in this group want all the rules enforced as a learning tool for these players, most of which will be first time high schoolers.
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Tell the catcher, take it down on 3 (or 4)... and you dont have the problem. Focus on the 1 minute, not the 5 pitches. 60 seconds.. forget that 5 pitch deal after the top of the 1st. They are not getting in more that 3-4 pitches in 60 seconds.. and you should not be standing their picking your nose waiting for them to throw it a 6th time so you can get a ball on the batter. Be on that from jump and keep the game moving and stop goofing off. ![]()
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