Illegal Player - USSSA Fastpitch Rules

[kfrisbee]

The substitution was illegal because the player re-entered the game on defense without the PU being notified. (She was still in the same batting order)

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by kfrisbee

The substitution was illegal because the player re-entered the game on defense without the PU being notified. (She was still in the same batting order)

If she still had a legal re-entry remaining, that is an unreported substitute, not an illegal sub. There is a difference in the penalty, and also for the remedy by the offending team. For the unreported sub, all you had to do was report her, not take her out (unless, of course, you, as the coach, did not want her to be playing).

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by kfrisbee

The substitution was illegal because the player re-entered the game on defense without the PU being notified. (She was still in the same batting order)

As Tom has already noted, this is an unreported sub instead of being an illegal player, and two totally different rules apply. For USSSA, as with NFHS, the initial penalty for an unreported sub is to warn the coach of the offense, note the substitution on your line-up card, tell the opposing coach of the substitution and go on with the game.

This player had the right to be there, she just wasn't reported.

An illegal player is a player who has no right to occupy the position she is currently occupying, and whether or not she is reported doesn't matter, as she has no right to be there in the first place.

[kfrisbee]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

As Tom has already noted, this is an unreported sub instead of being an illegal player, and two totally different rules apply. For USSSA, as with NFHS, the initial penalty for an unreported sub is to warn the coach of the offense, note the substitution on your line-up card, tell the opposing coach of the substitution and go on with the game.

This player had the right to be there, she just wasn't reported.

An illegal player is a player who has no right to occupy the position she is currently occupying, and whether or not she is reported doesn't matter, as she has no right to be there in the first place.

I got it. Thank you all for the clarification!

[Dholloway1962]

Don't know if you have a rulebook or not but here is a link to the pdf version (btw, it is the 2009 edition):

http://www.usssa.com/usssa/usssa-gen...009FPRules.pdf

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by kfrisbee

Thank you all for the clarification!

You are certainly welcome.