Whats the call

[justcallmeblue]

situation. . .ASA Mens SP

R1 and 3rd, R2 at 1st. . . . 1B playing behind the bag and just over R2's right shoulder

Lefty batter, laces a line drive (i mean this play was bang bang). . . .. . . .R1 takes off for home

R2 takes the linedrive (in air) right off his shoulder after trying to get out of the way. . .all the time R2 IS in contact with the bag. Ball ricochets off his shoulder, over the Right field fence and out of play. At the time the ball hit the runner, ball was fair

I know that R1 is not out - 8.8.M (contrary to the defensive teams plea's and arguements)

However, here comes the question on what to do next.

I decided to put the BR on 1st, R2 on 2nd and scored R1 from 3rd.

After the game, i thought, what if the ball richoched off the bag and out of bounds, that would be a dead ball, GRD. . .so I think that BR on 2B and R2 on 3rd (scoring R1) would be the correct call.

Thoughts?

Is there anything in the rules about a ball hitting a player, not touched by a defensive player and going out of play??

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by justcallmeblue

situation. . .ASA Mens SP

R1 and 3rd, R2 at 1st. . . . 1B playing behind the bag and just over R2's right shoulder

Lefty batter, laces a line drive (i mean this play was bang bang). . . .. . . .R1 takes off for home

R2 takes the linedrive (in air) right off his shoulder after trying to get out of the way. . .all the time R2 IS in contact with the bag. Ball ricochets off his shoulder, over the Right field fence and out of play. At the time the ball hit the runner, ball was fair

I know that R1 is not out - 8.8.M (contrary to the defensive teams plea's and arguements)

However, here comes the question on what to do next.

I decided to put the BR on 1st, R2 on 2nd and scored R1 from 3rd.

Well, scoring R1 was wrong.

After the game, i thought, what if the ball richoched off the bag and out of bounds, that would be a dead ball, GRD. . .so I think that BR on 2B and R2 on 3rd (scoring R1) would be the correct call.

Thoughts?

Yeah, what is "out of bounds"? This isn't football or basketball.

Yes, a fair batted ball which leaves the field of play is a GRD. The BR and all runners are advanced two bases from the TOP.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, scoring R1 was wrong.



Yeah, what is "out of bounds"? This isn't football or basketball.

Yes, a fair batted ball which leaves the field of play is a GRD. The BR and all runners are advanced two bases from the TOP.

Um... Wouldn't scoring R1 be correct? I think you meant R2.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Um... Wouldn't scoring R1 be correct? I think you meant R2.

they only advance if forced on this play.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

they only advance if forced on this play.

Right, so B3 is now on 2B, R2 is on 3B, and R1 is...

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Right, so B3 is now on 2B, R2 is on 3B, and R1 is...

no.. br goes 1b, R2 goes 2b, and r1 can stand there picking his nose and scratching himself. He goes no where.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Um... Wouldn't scoring R1 be correct? I think you meant R2.

No, the ball is dead. R1 has no right to advance on this play.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

No, the ball is dead. R1 has no right to advance on this play.

We've got 2 runners at the beginning of this sitch: R1 on 3B and R2 on 1B. Where would you put R1 if you rule a GRD?

[NDblue]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

We've got 2 runners at the beginning of this sitch: R1 on 3B and R2 on 1B. Where would you put R1 if you rule a GRD?

I think I would have him crossing HP and chalking up 1 run for the offensive team.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by justcallmeblue

situation. . .ASA Mens SP

R1 and 3rd, R2 at 1st. . . . 1B playing behind the bag and just over R2's right shoulder

Lefty batter, laces a line drive (i mean this play was bang bang). . . .. . . .R1 takes off for home

R2 takes the linedrive (in air) right off his shoulder after trying to get out of the way. . .all the time R2 IS in contact with the bag. Ball ricochets off his shoulder, over the Right field fence and out of play. At the time the ball hit the runner, ball was fair

I know that R1 is not out - 8.8.M (contrary to the defensive teams plea's and arguements)

However, here comes the question on what to do next.

I decided to put the BR on 1st, R2 on 2nd and scored R1 from 3rd.

Why on earth would they think R1 is out?

Tell em to dream on.

[justcallmeblue]

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OOPS, , , ,thats supposed to be BR

[DeputyUICHousto]

and the defender playing behind the runner you have an immediate dead ball and the batter is awarded 1st base. Then the runner from 1st moves up to 2nd base but the runner at 3rd isn't forced.

[wadeintothem]

8-16m is the rule I was thinking of.. not 7 something.


And this is the case play

PLAY 8.9-6
With R1 on 1B, B2 hits a grounder toward F3. F3 is playing behind 1B and the ball strikes R1 standing on the bag trying to avoid the ball. When struck with the batted ball, both the ball and R1 are in fair territory.
RULING: The ball is fair and ruled dead. R1 is awarded 2B and B2 is awarded 1B. (8-1E[6]; 8-8M)

[DeputyUICHousto]

lets throw a monkey wrench into this one.

Lets say the first baseman is in front of the base when the runner is struck with a fair batted ball then the ball goes into dead ball territory.

Now the ball is live until it goes into dead ball territory and you have a GRD when it goes out of play.

[wadeintothem]

so how is that a monkey wrench exactly?