2009 Rule Changes NFHS

[JefferMC]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

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A list of rule changes to be considered was available to the public, including umpires, on the NFHS web site.

I guess it is my fault, but I had no idea that there was a publicly available list of pending rule changes. Or any idea what to do with my complaints.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by JefferMC

I guess it is my fault, but I had no idea that there was a publicly available list of pending rule changes. Or any idea what to do with my complaints.

Post them here.

Its about as productive as anything else... or moreso.

[BretMan]

Kind of funny...

The rationale for item number one is, "The additional specification makes NFHS softball consistent with ASA".

Then, item number two introduces a rule change that is the polar opposite of the ASA ruling- and opposite the ruling for every other softball code (save NCAA, which is one rule set that should have no bearing on amateur youth play).

So, is being "consistent with ASA" a valid goal, or not?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

I think Irish for the most part pretty much summed up my thoughts on the major issues.

Me too, especially the flag, the arm rotation inconsistency with everyone else, and religious uniform.


Also, several of us responded to Diane Kolb' request for comments about 2008 rules on the NFHS site, but receipt was never confirmed.
http://www.nfhs.org/cgi-bin/ultimate...;f=13;t=000976

[3SPORT]

To me NFHS is aligning itself more with the NCAA code in rule specifications and with ASA on equipment specifications.

3 good examples of how the NFHS and NCAA codes are merging.

Allowing metal cleats last year
This new bunt rule that moves it to the NCAA rule for bunting.
Pitching and batting time rules.

[Dakota]

I guess they are caving in to the coaches / parents at large schools, etc., who are SOOOOO concerned about preparing their daughters for college play.

Where is the actual mission of NFHS sports is all of this?

I won't be surprised if the step back in pitching is not the next to go, and the plate is moved back to 43'.

[whiskers_ump]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Sadly. All it is is a desire by coaches to get a really cheap strike.

and it is stupid.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Me too, especially the flag, the arm rotation inconsistency with everyone else, and religious uniform.


Also, several of us responded to Diane Kolb' request for comments about 2008 rules on the NFHS site, but receipt was never confirmed.
http://www.nfhs.org/cgi-bin/ultimate...;f=13;t=000976

I responded to a NFHS survey on rules changes (for all the good it apparently did).

[argodad]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I guess they are caving in to the coaches / parents at large schools, etc., who are SOOOOO concerned about preparing their daughters for college play.

Where is the actual mission of NFHS sports is all of this?

I won't be surprised if the step back in pitching is not the next to go, and the plate is moved back to 43'.

We've been at 43' in Florida for three years, and have NFHS approval for a "fourth-year experiment." It has not been an issue. The good pitchers are still good and the bad pitchers are no worse than before.

And the step back should go away, IMHO.

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Sadly. All it is is a desire by coaches to get a really cheap strike.

Sadly? When I'm on the field, hearing a strike called is not a sad moment as we're now one strike closer to an out.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by 3SPORT

To me NFHS is aligning itself more with the NCAA code in rule specifications and with ASA on equipment specifications.

3 good examples of how the NFHS and NCAA codes are merging.

Allowing metal cleats last year
This new bunt rule that moves it to the NCAA rule for bunting.
Pitching and batting time rules.

And yet, HS ball is just about at the end of the list when a player is being recruited behind ASA, NSA, PONY U-trip, AFA, USFA, Triple Crown and about every other acronym-labeled organization which promotes softball.

I think Tom may be on to something. Could this be the NFCA influence?

[3SPORT]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

And yet, HS ball is just about at the end of the list when a player is being recruited behind ASA, NSA, PONY U-trip, AFA, USFA, Triple Crown and about every other acronym-labeled organization which promotes softball.

I think Tom may be on to something. Could this be the NFCA influence?

It is the same thing with basketball. Most of the exposure to college coaches is through AAU summer ball/tournaments. The college coaches can't get out and see the players since the seasons are at the same time of the year so there best look is at the travel team/summer tournament circuit.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I guess they are caving in to the coaches / parents at large schools, etc., who are SOOOOO concerned about preparing their daughters for college play.

Where is the actual mission of NFHS sports is all of this?

I won't be surprised if the step back in pitching is not the next to go, and the plate is moved back to 43'.

That would be nice... and if ASA would allow metal cleats, there would be a little common zen between the two (and NCAA) orgs

[NM FP Ump]

7-3-1 Clarified that the timeframe for delivering the next pitch or being in the batter's box begins when the ball has been returned to the pitcher to prepare for the next pitch.

Well, that clarifies everything!!! Is this saying that we have judgment as to when the pitcher is prepared for the next pitch? Am I missing something here?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NM FP Ump

7-3-1 Clarified that the timeframe for delivering the next pitch or being in the batter's box begins when the ball has been returned to the pitcher to prepare for the next pitch.

Well, that clarifies everything!!! Is this saying that we have judgment as to when the pitcher is prepared for the next pitch? Am I missing something here?

It just means that the 20-second and 10-second clock starts for the pitcher and batter, respectively, when the pitcher receives the ball.