2009 Rule Changes NFHS

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Sadly. All it is is a desire by coaches to get a really cheap strike.

Sadly? When I'm on the field, hearing a strike called is not a sad moment as we're now one strike closer to an out.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by NYBLUE

What was the prvs definintion?
Is this "new" definition significantly different?

It is a significant, and extremely stupid change. The old rule required that the batter must offer at a pitch for it to be called a strike, and that the mere holding of the bat in the strike zone does not constitute a strike. Obviously, the NFHS felt the need to cave to coaches pressure to want a cheap strike, in much the same way as the NCAA always does on these types of rules. I am really hoping that the NFHS will recant this rule. It is stupid. Did I mention that I thought that this was stupid???

[kcg NC2Ablu]

does anybody know what the penalty will now be for exceeding the 20 seconds? I like how NCAA has it broken down.... ten for the batter and ten for the pitcher to step on the pitchers plate.... 10 for her to come together and 5 to pitch.... that makes the most logical sense... but again I didnt see what the penalty will now be? if its not an illegal pitch what will it be ? a dead ball award? or just a ...hey uh pitch you gotta throw it not make friends with it...??????

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

does anybody know what the penalty will now be for exceeding the 20 seconds? I like how NCAA has it broken down.... ten for the batter and ten for the pitcher to step on the pitchers plate.... 10 for her to come together and 5 to pitch.... that makes the most logical sense... but again I didnt see what the penalty will now be? if its not an illegal pitch what will it be ? a dead ball award? or just a ...hey uh pitch you gotta throw it not make friends with it...??????

Just as stated in the OP, it will be a ball awarded to the batter.

JMO, but I believe the NCAA breakdown of time allowance is a bit too much. What can be simpler than, "here's the ball, you have 20 second to throw it"?

[BretMan]

Kind of funny...

The rationale for item number one is, "The additional specification makes NFHS softball consistent with ASA".

Then, item number two introduces a rule change that is the polar opposite of the ASA ruling- and opposite the ruling for every other softball code (save NCAA, which is one rule set that should have no bearing on amateur youth play).

So, is being "consistent with ASA" a valid goal, or not?

[3SPORT]

To me NFHS is aligning itself more with the NCAA code in rule specifications and with ASA on equipment specifications.

3 good examples of how the NFHS and NCAA codes are merging.

Allowing metal cleats last year
This new bunt rule that moves it to the NCAA rule for bunting.
Pitching and batting time rules.

[Dakota]

I guess they are caving in to the coaches / parents at large schools, etc., who are SOOOOO concerned about preparing their daughters for college play.

Where is the actual mission of NFHS sports is all of this?

I won't be surprised if the step back in pitching is not the next to go, and the plate is moved back to 43'.

[argodad]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I guess they are caving in to the coaches / parents at large schools, etc., who are SOOOOO concerned about preparing their daughters for college play.

Where is the actual mission of NFHS sports is all of this?

I won't be surprised if the step back in pitching is not the next to go, and the plate is moved back to 43'.

We've been at 43' in Florida for three years, and have NFHS approval for a "fourth-year experiment." It has not been an issue. The good pitchers are still good and the bad pitchers are no worse than before.

And the step back should go away, IMHO.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I guess they are caving in to the coaches / parents at large schools, etc., who are SOOOOO concerned about preparing their daughters for college play.

Where is the actual mission of NFHS sports is all of this?

I won't be surprised if the step back in pitching is not the next to go, and the plate is moved back to 43'.

That would be nice... and if ASA would allow metal cleats, there would be a little common zen between the two (and NCAA) orgs

[NM FP Ump]

7-3-1 Clarified that the timeframe for delivering the next pitch or being in the batter's box begins when the ball has been returned to the pitcher to prepare for the next pitch.

Well, that clarifies everything!!! Is this saying that we have judgment as to when the pitcher is prepared for the next pitch? Am I missing something here?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by 3SPORT

To me NFHS is aligning itself more with the NCAA code in rule specifications and with ASA on equipment specifications.

3 good examples of how the NFHS and NCAA codes are merging.

Allowing metal cleats last year
This new bunt rule that moves it to the NCAA rule for bunting.
Pitching and batting time rules.

And yet, HS ball is just about at the end of the list when a player is being recruited behind ASA, NSA, PONY U-trip, AFA, USFA, Triple Crown and about every other acronym-labeled organization which promotes softball.

I think Tom may be on to something. Could this be the NFCA influence?

[3SPORT]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

And yet, HS ball is just about at the end of the list when a player is being recruited behind ASA, NSA, PONY U-trip, AFA, USFA, Triple Crown and about every other acronym-labeled organization which promotes softball.

I think Tom may be on to something. Could this be the NFCA influence?

It is the same thing with basketball. Most of the exposure to college coaches is through AAU summer ball/tournaments. The college coaches can't get out and see the players since the seasons are at the same time of the year so there best look is at the travel team/summer tournament circuit.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by 3SPORT

6-1-4d
and Note Changed the pitching windup requirement to a maximum of one and a half clockwise revolutions. Previous note was deleted.
Rationale: Pitchers are attempting to gain an advantage by deceiving the batter. The rules change will make an illegal pitch easier to identify and enforcement more consistent.

Hmmm...

If F1 is viewed from her left side, she's clockwise, but from her right side is counter-clockwise...

This must mean that every F1 should be viewed from the 1B side always?

I'd hate to tell the coach that his F1 is illegal every time because her arm isn't going clockwise when we're working 3-umpire mechanics and I'm the rabbit...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by SRW

Hmmm...

If F1 is viewed from her left side, she's clockwise, but from her right side is counter-clockwise...

This must mean that every F1 should be viewed from the 1B side always?

I'd hate to tell the coach that his F1 is illegal every time because her arm isn't going clockwise when we're working 3-umpire mechanics and I'm the rabbit...

Just another case of overthinking a rule. Of course, they will say it was meant from the pitcher's viewpoint. But wouldn't that make a lefthander illegal?

Pitchers are attempting to gain an advantage by deceiving the batter.

No $hit!!! Isn't that their job? Wouldn't that be the purpose of a curve ball, riser, drop, change up, etc.?

[JefferMC]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Just another case of overthinking a rule. Of course, they will say it was meant from the pitcher's viewpoint. But wouldn't that make a lefthander illegal?

I guess my DD needs to find a new position.