1 base or 2?

[DaveASA/FED]

Ok heres play. R1 on 1st left handed batter, F2 throws toward 1st hit batter in box, doing nothing abnormal in the helmet and the ball goes over the fence out of play.

Now the question 1 base or 2? There were some that believed that this was a 1 base award since it went out of play on a pitched ball. Others said that was only if it was thrown by the pitcher and went out of play that this rule applied. So what say you all???

[MNBlue]

2 bases from the time of the throw.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED

Ok heres play. R1 on 1st left handed batter, F2 throws toward 1st hit batter in box, doing nothing abnormal in the helmet and the ball goes over the fence out of play.

Now the question 1 base or 2? There were some that believed that this was a 1 base award since it went out of play on a pitched ball. Others said that was only if it was thrown by the pitcher and went out of play that this rule applied. So what say you all???

How do they figure "F2 throws toward 1st" is a pitch?

[MGKBLUE]

Agreed, 2 bases from the time of the throw.

[DaveASA/FED]

I am not sure but PU sold it on the field, and UIC agreed with it after the game, no protest or anything just discussing it.

Their reasoning was it was during a pitch....I didn't buy it hence my asking here... I had never heard of everything happening during a pitch being different, only if F1 throws it over the backstop, through the backstop etc.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED

I am not sure but PU sold it on the field, and UIC agreed with it after the game, ...Their reasoning was it was during a pitch....

Learn something new every day... this is the first time I knew the catcher could throw a pitch!

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Learn something new every day... this is the first time I knew the catcher could throw a pitch!

I went to a Brewers game in 1991 where they had the catcher pitch. They went through all of their relief pitchers, and their catcher used to pitch in HS or college. So, they gave him a shot.

Yes, it was that bad.

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Learn something new every day... this is the first time I knew the catcher could throw a pitch!

Along the same train of thought: If F2's throw was a pitch, shouldn't the ball be dead and the batter awarded first base on the hit by pitch?

I tried thinking like a coach once and had a headache for days afterwards.