Help with a Sitch..

[jmaellis]

R1 @ 3B;
BR is walked;
As BR jogs to 1B, R1 steps off 3B a few feet;
Ball is returned to the pitcher in the circle;
Without stopping, BR rounds 1B and jogs to 2B;
R1 just stands there, a few feet off 3B;
F1 doesn't do anything .. just stands there in the circle;
BR rounds 2B and starts to jog toward 3B;
F1 still just stands there and watches;
R1 hasn't moved an inch;
BR stops just short of 3B, looks at F1, and realizing F1 isn't going to fall for it, starts to jog back to 2B;
R1 remains just where she is, still a few feet off of 3B;
BR gets to 2B and stops;
R1 then returns to 3B with a couple of seconds.

Everything is okay in this situation .. right? No LBR violation by R1 because the ball is live as long as the BR was in motion around the bases, during the brief time she is stopped between 2B and 3B and while she is returning to 2B. Once BR is stopped at 2B, R1 must quickly make up her mind what she is going to do. In this case she returned to 3B, but she could have also gone home.

I'm umpiring my first post rec. league tourney this weekend and I'm trying to think of situations that might occur and come to the proper rulings.

[Dakota]

Speaking ASA, once the BR reached 1B and F1 had the ball in the circle, the LBR is in effect. BR continuing to run has no effect on R1. If R1 just stands there while F1 has the ball and is not making a play, R1 is out. The ball would be dead, and the BR returned to the last base reached.

[wadeintothem]

BR rounds 1B towards 2B in this sitch as described

Wade looks at R1 "girl you better do something"

thats about how long she gets then DB/R1 Out is on the way.

This is a very common LBR out by the way...I get a few every year this way.

[jmaellis]

Yes, ASA.

Glad I asked .

Does R1's time begin as soon as F1 has the ball in the circle or does she get at least until the BR reaches 1st?

[Skahtboi]

Once BR attains first.

By the way, this is not just ASA but all codes of which I am aware.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by jmaellis

Yes, ASA.

Glad I asked .

Does R1's time begin as soon as F1 has the ball in the circle or does she get at least until the BR reaches 1st?

Both have to happen, so whichever happens last starts the "one-one-thousand..." on R1.

[DaveASA/FED]

I agree with everything posted. BUT I have a question on a hit ball. I was thinking that the LBR "waiting" to start till BR obtains first was just on a walk, I am probably wrong....so I ask does the LBR wait for BR to obtain first in all conditions or just on a walk?

[umpharp]

Just for fun, lets say that R1 stays on 3B during all of this.
Everything else in the OP happens as described with BR getting close to 3B but not touching it , then jogging back to 2B

In this case I'm thinking that we have nothing and we pitch to the next battter with runners on 2B and 3B. Correct?