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Old Fri Mar 14, 2008, 11:58am
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Help with a partner

Last night I worked with a new partner for the first time. He said he's been doing sb for 8 years, I have my doubts. Here is play situation:

Runner on 1st, no outs.
Batter hits a nubber down the 1B line. In our pregame he asked if I wanted any help on the ball in the dirt in front of the catcher and any "secret signals" to indicate catch no catch etc. I am PU and glued in and see the ball the whole way into the pitcher's glove who picks it up and throws to first late. My partner comes in from behind 2B calling time to talk to me. (I know something bad is about to happen) He tells me the ball hit the batter's foot out of the box. I told him I was sure it did not. He said "you were blocked out, I clearly saw it." I said, that I'm sure I saw the ball all the way (because I did - I was faster than the catcher most of the game) so lets let it go. We separated and I turned to head back to the plate and got two steps before I heard him say, "Batter is out on interference."

Question 1: What would you do at this point?

Immediately the hc who was 3b coach called time and came to me for clarification. I simply said, "Field umpire ruled interference, check with him."

Question 2: Is this "selling out my partner?" (he thought it was).

Question 3: What do you do post-game? (We had a few other difficulties so he shook my hand as we left the field and went towards a different parking lot.

Just seeking advice...
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Old Fri Mar 14, 2008, 12:36pm
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Question 1: What would you do at this point?
Make sure I knew this guy's name so I could inform the assignor not to put us together again.
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Question 2: Is this "selling out my partner?" (he thought it was).
So, him overruling your judgment on your call AFTER a conference and making the call anyway was OK, but telling the coach the obvious (his call, talk to him) was throwing him under the bus? He actually expected you to defend his poaching of your call when you already told him you disagreed? Amazing.
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Question 3: What do you do post-game? (
At this point, probably just walk away and have that conversation with the assignor.

PS: This is taking him at this word that he is an 8 year veteran. If he was a rookie, I'd have a discussion with him about who has what calls, about you can't overrule your partner's call, etc., assuming he just didn't know any better.
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Old Fri Mar 14, 2008, 01:04pm
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Is he an 8-year vet or a rookie for the 8th straight year? I'd assume the latter.

Like Dakota said, call the assignor. Then call your UIC and explain what happened. The UIC could have a visit with him. He's got no business making the call anyway. Even if there WAS interference and you WERE blocked out (not saying you were, just a what if), you confer with your partner and the call belongs to the PU.

Then put on your Rev. hat and pray for the guy. He obviously needs some help from above.
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Old Fri Mar 14, 2008, 02:39pm
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I was going to say "What Tom said." But I think John put it even better. Sounds like an eight year rookie.
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Old Fri Mar 14, 2008, 04:45pm
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I think that we all agree with the advice that you have already been given.
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Old Fri Mar 14, 2008, 07:39pm
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If you are using thearbiter its very easy to block him.
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