Foul tip

[IRISHMAFIA]

Which answers are correct?


1. B1 swings and contacts the ball that goes directly to F2’s glove.

a. That is a foul tip when caught if the ball never rises on its way from the bat to the catcher’s glove.
b. That is a foul tip when caught unless the ball rises above the batter’s head.
c. The ball is live if legally caught by F2.
d. The ball is dead on a foul tip.
e. Any fielder can legally catch a foul tip.

Edited: for the purpose of this post, assume directly infers "sharply"

[JEL]

none of the above

a. is close

[justcallmeblue]

None of the above. . .its an Out

[mo99]

C would be the only correct answer.

A+B: The height of the ball is not in question.A foul tip must go "sharply and directly"to F2's glove.

D: The ball is live on a caught foul tip.

E: If caught by another fielder,it becomes a caught foul ball.

[Mountaineer]

I saw a LL umpire (female) in the SE regional signal a foul tip on a ball that went from the bat to the ground to the catcher's chest protector to the fence. So that has to be the correct answer!

[IamMatt]

I'll give it a try.

C, speaking ASA fastpitch.

[tcblue13]

NFHS 2006 Ruleset
2-25-2
Foul Tip. A foul tip is a batted ball that goes sharply and directly from the bat to the catcher's mitt or hand and is legally caught by the catcher. It is a strike. (In fast pitch, the ball remains live, but in slow pitch, the ball becomes dead.)

[tcblue13]

NSA 2006 Ruleset
1-22
FOUL TIP: A foul tip is a batted ball that goes directly from the bat, not higher than the batter's head, to the catcher's hands or glove/mitt, and is legally caught by the catcher. A foul tip is a strike. The batter is out if it is the third strike. A foul tip is a dead ball. Exception: The Men's Major and AA divisions, the ball remains alive.
Note:- Any foul tip is a strike

[bkbjones]

C

Originally Posted by tcblue13

NSA 2006 Ruleset
1-22
[B]FOUL TIP Exception: The Men's Major and AA divisions, the ball remains alive.

And people complain about ASA. How can the ball be alive? It can be LIVE, but the ball was never a living being...

Arrrrrggggggh! Doctor!!!!!!!! More pills please!!!

[Skahtboi]

Speaking ASA: C.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Which answers are correct?


1. B1 swings and contacts the ball that goes directly to F2’s glove.

a. That is a foul tip when caught if the ball never rises on its way from the bat to the catcher’s glove.
b. That is a foul tip when caught unless the ball rises above the batter’s head.
c. The ball is live if legally caught by F2.
d. The ball is dead on a foul tip.
e. Any fielder can legally catch a foul tip.

Edited: for the purpose of this post, assume directly infers "sharply"

Speaking ASA, a. would be correct, but contains contradictory information - it is a foul tip when caught (period), but since it has been stated the ball went directly to the glove, the ball did not rise.
b. same as for a, although I suppose it is possible the catcher's glove is also above the batter's head.
c. Correct for fastpitch and slowpitch with stealing. Not correct for slowpitch without stealing.
d. Inverse of c.
e. Not correct; must be caught by the catcher to be a foul tip.

Does the extra information (that is not possible for a and irrelevant for b) mean that those answers are "not correct" or that the extra information should be ignored? Also, without stating which division the question applies to, it is not possible to decide whether c or d is correct.

JMO, but if this was a test question, it is poorly worded. The only answer that is absolutely INcorrect is e.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

JMO, but if this was a test question, it is poorly worded. The only answer that is absolutely INcorrect is e.

Now THAT is an incorrect statement.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Which answers are correct?


1. B1 swings and contacts the ball that goes directly to F2’s glove.

a. That is a foul tip when caught if the ball never rises on its way from the bat to the catcher’s glove.
b. That is a foul tip when caught unless the ball rises above the batter’s head.
c. The ball is live if legally caught by F2.
d. The ball is dead on a foul tip.
e. Any fielder can legally catch a foul tip.

Edited: for the purpose of this post, assume directly infers "sharply"

FP
a) literally true, but probably marked false if on a test
b) false, as literally stated, height is irrelevant
c) true
d) false
e) false

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Now THAT is an incorrect statement.

I assume after a suitable amout of time for everyone to answer (who is going to answer), you'll elighten me as to which other answer is absolutely incorrect.

a) is correct, but contradicts the stated situation
b) is correct if the catcher's glove is also above the batter's head
c) is correct for fastpitch & slowpitch with stealing
d) is correct for slowpitch without stealing
e) is incorrect

[rwest]

A ball that goes directly from the bat to the catchers glove/hand and is legally caught by the catcher is a foul tip. Nothing else has to be considered. Not the direction, not the height of the glove in relation to the ball. That's why A and B are incorrect. A ball that goes from the bat directly to the hand/glove can do so in a rising trajectory and still be a foul tip if the catcher's glove is above the ball when it makes contact with the bat.

C is correct if we are talking FP and SP with stealing. Otherwise it is incorrect.

D is correct if we are talking SP without stealing. Incorrect if we are talking FP or SP with stealing.

E is incorrect in all rulesets that I'm aware of.