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Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 04:28pm
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Mike, is this being changed midstream? Have you heard, or can you find out first hand if Bernie is being misquoted? It wouldn't be the first time that (a midstream change) has happened, although it would seem to be counter to the approach of the current administration, which has stated they wouldn't change anything unless and until they could publish a change.
If it has, it makes absolutely no sense. The priority of a BU in the two-umpire system should be to have access to the call at 1B, not the ease of a button hook.

Placing F4 between an umpire and the target is just asking for trouble. This isn't FP where infielders are always moving. On a play to the left side of the infield with no one on base, F4 is most likely a spectator which means s/he is an unnecessary obstruction.

AFA closeness to F4, I'm a firm believer in being just out of reach of the player. Reasoning: the umpire doesn't become a target for the batter and when a fielder needs to move back, the umpire just needs to pivot and the player is by him/her much like a PU on a pop up behind the plate.
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Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 05:16pm
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Not trying to be a smartass, mike.....but I wouldnt say its a change if it wasnt....check the mechanics changes and book for 2007.


and your point is correct..it takes you AWAY from your priority, and your likely close play at first on a double play....THATS why I dont like it
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Old Mon Aug 06, 2007, 06:10pm
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Not trying to be a smartass, mike.....but I wouldnt say its a change if it wasnt....check the mechanics changes and book for 2007
and your point is correct..it takes you AWAY from your priority, and your likely close play at first on a double play....THATS why I dont like it

The change on the web site specifically states "with runners on base" and I don't believe that is what we are discussing.
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Old Tue Aug 07, 2007, 08:48am
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The change on the web site specifically states "with runners on base" and I don't believe that is what we are discussing.

Mike, let me get clarification...Ive been told twice to start and finish there. I will let you know what I hear.
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Old Tue Aug 07, 2007, 12:05pm
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Mike, let me get clarification...Ive been told twice to start and finish there. I will let you know what I hear.
Well, if you read the book, look at the pictures, they both have the BU starting to the left of 2B with no runners on base. There was no change or clarification which I can find in the book or on the web site.

I think someone has this confused with the change involving runner(s) on base.
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Old Tue Aug 07, 2007, 04:25pm
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Mike, Im hearing two different things, but I should have referenced the book a little better..so mea culpa...... I stand corrected.....
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Old Tue Aug 07, 2007, 05:41pm
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Mike, Im hearing two different things,
That will teach you to use two ears
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