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Old Sun Jul 29, 2007, 07:20pm
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Incorrect instructions at plate meeting...

I'm BU. Partner is conducting the plate meeting, and for some reason is going into detail on the courtesy runner rule.

He explains it incorrectly, stating that once the player used as a courtesy runner enters the game, that the position she was running for (e.g. pitcher) can no longer have a courtesy runner. I keep quiet.

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Old Sun Jul 29, 2007, 07:23pm
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I'm BU. Partner is conducting the plate meeting, and for some reason is going into detail on the courtesy runner rule.

He explains it incorrectly, stating that once the player used as a courtesy runner enters the game, that the position she was running for (e.g. pitcher) can no longer have a courtesy runner. I keep quiet.

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Was this the same guy that did the punch-out on strike 2?
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Old Sun Jul 29, 2007, 07:33pm
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Was this the same guy that did the punch-out on strike 2?
Yup. I hadn't worked with him before. Other than these two things, he called a very good game. Near as I could tell, the CR issue never came up.
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Old Sun Jul 29, 2007, 07:49pm
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I would have waited till the coaches cleared out and told him privately that he misspoke and that he could correct it if the situation comes up in the course of the game.
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Old Sun Jul 29, 2007, 08:09pm
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I might have said: "You mean she can not have that player as CR anymore"
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Old Sun Jul 29, 2007, 11:24pm
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A couple of weeks ago, in the plate meeting before the state 12u Babe Ruth final (I was BU), the PU refreshed the coaches and captains on several ASA rules, mainly regarding INT and OBS. Not a usual topic for a plate meeting, but the main problem was, these were in areas where BR is significantly different from ASA. I could see reminding everyone of BR rules, since most teams hadn't played under that code, but a specific pre-game reminder that was wrong seemed to be asking for trouble.

But I kept my mouth shut, figuring that the chances were that the game would be a blowout and that nothing would come up. Luckily, it was, and nothing did.

Last year, in a Pennsylvania showcase with teams from Alaska, Texas, Colorado, Georgia, New England, etc., the PU, after going over the field ground rules, reminded the coaches and captains that it's "Two from the field, one from the mound." Everybody (except me) nodded in agreement.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 12:05pm
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I would have waited till the coaches cleared out and told him privately that he misspoke and that he could correct it if the situation comes up in the course of the game.
The last two weeks, I have had the opportunity to work with umpires from different areas of the country that I would not normally work with. I had a situation where my partner explained an NCAA rule for catches against and over the fence that differs from the ASA rules we were playing under.

After the plate meeting, I told him that he explained the NCAA rule..after thinking for a few seconds, he agreed. As this was a B level game, it did not come into play at all during the game.
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Old Tue Jul 31, 2007, 07:13pm
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NCAA rule for catches against and over the fence that differs from the ASA rules

I do both NCAA and ASA. What is it?
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Old Wed Aug 01, 2007, 09:24am
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I'm BU. Partner is conducting the plate meeting, and for some reason is going into detail on the courtesy runner rule.

He explains it incorrectly, stating that once the player used as a courtesy runner enters the game, that the position she was running for (e.g. pitcher) can no longer have a courtesy runner. I keep quiet.

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Dakota did your partner also give the defenition of a force play. Just kidding but unless your doing a very low level of ball there's no reason for explaning the C/R rule unless asked by a coach or player ,just my two cents.
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I'm BU. Partner is conducting the plate meeting, and for some reason is going into detail on the courtesy runner rule.

He explains it incorrectly, stating that once the player used as a courtesy runner enters the game, that the position she was running for (e.g. pitcher) can no longer have a courtesy runner. I keep quiet.

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If he is wrong, then you need to have a consult with him and correct. If that means bringing the mgrs back out, then do it.
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