Tripple Play STOPPED

[Bobbi Stevens]

Please someone settle this argument.

It's the top of the 6th, they have no out's runners at 1st and 2nd and I am playing short stop. the ball is hit low and hard. I could of dived to catch it, but i saw at least a double play, the ball bounced at my feet.

I intended to tag the runner from 2nd, step on the 2nd base then throw to 1st. TRIPPLE PLAY. but as I tagged the runner, he pushed my glove away knocking the ball out of my hand. He then deliberatly ran and stood between me and the ball, he then ran to 3rd. The umpire said that i did not have control of the ball.

But i did. surly he could not knocked it out of my hand delibratly and get away with that.

I though he should of been out the umpire should of given the runner out from 1st to 2nd as i would of easily got that out.

Any comments ??

[NCASAUmp]

In all honesty, this sounds like something only a replay camera can settle, and that just ain't happening. It's not that I doubt your word, but I don't think this can be solved online. It's a HTBT-with the right angle.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Bobbi Stevens

Please someone settle this argument.

It's the top of the 6th, they have no out's runners at 1st and 2nd and I am playing short stop. the ball is hit low and hard. I could of dived to catch it, but i saw at least a double play, the ball bounced at my feet.

I intended to tag the runner from 2nd, step on the 2nd base then throw to 1st. TRIPPLE PLAY. but as I tagged the runner, he pushed my glove away knocking the ball out of my hand. He then deliberatly ran and stood between me and the ball, he then ran to 3rd. The umpire said that i did not have control of the ball.

But i did. surly he could not knocked it out of my hand delibratly and get away with that.

I though he should of been out the umpire should of given the runner out from 1st to 2nd as i would of easily got that out.

Any comments ??

If you had control of the ball and it was knocked out by the runner and not just by the manner of the tag; then it could be interference.
My reading of your description implies that is the case, but apparently the umpire saw it as lack of control, which means no tag, no outs at all.
If the runner then "ran and stood between me and the ball"; the umpire would have to judge that as deliberate and that would be hard to judge versus being confused or thinking he was out, etc.

[Bobbi Stevens]

So just image for one minute, the umpire saw the player deliberately knock the ball out of my glove, then this would be interference, therefore he would be given out ? Yes ??

would the umpire then judge that i would of also got the runner out at 2nd ?

I personally felt that i would of got all three.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Bobbi Stevens

So just image for one minute, the umpire saw the player deliberately knock the ball out of my glove, then this would be interference, therefore he would be given out ? Yes ??

would the umpire then judge that i would of also got the runner out at 2nd ?

I personally felt that i would of got all three.

Yes, the umpire probably could have given you the out at 2B, and maybe 1B, though the out at 1B had more variables and would make it tougher for the ump to be "certain".

[Bobbi Stevens]

Is there a rule about runners knocking balls out of gloves, or a rule that cover this incident ?? So i can look it up ???

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Bobbi Stevens

Is there a rule about runners knocking balls out of gloves, or a rule that cover this incident ?? So i can look it up ???

We don't know which rule book you are using, but for example the runner rules in ASA are in Rule 8, Section 7, starting around sub section L. Other rule books have similar sections, usually titled "runner is out" or something similar.

Note: the out at 2nd could be because the tagged runner is now out and as a "retired" runner "deliberately" attempted to prevent a double play. The triple play would be a real stretch on the umpire's part.

[Skahtboi]

As an aside, "would've" does not equal "would of," but rather "would have." Just a pet peeve of mine.

[emaxos]

As long as we are providing grammar corrections, how about triple play, not tripple play.
It takes a village!!

[CecilOne]

Come on you guys, ease up.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by emaxos

As long as we are providing grammar corrections, how about triple play, not tripple play.
It takes a village!!

I was going to suggest trippple play.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I was going to suggest trippple play.

Good call, Dakota.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by emaxos

As long as we are providing grammar corrections, how about triple play, not tripple play.
It takes a village!!

Oh...trust me. I could've gone on and on. The incorrect spellings, though, could have been accidental. However, most people today actually believe that "would of" is really what folks are saying when they mean "would've."

[bkbjones]

If it was SP, a "Ripple" play would have been more apt.

[celebur]

Originally Posted by Bobbi Stevens

Is there a rule about runners knocking balls out of gloves, or a rule that cover this incident ?? So i can look it up ???

Note that the rule will not specifically mention a runner knocking the ball out of the glove.

If runner does this deliberately, then it is interference, and the interference rules apply. "Deliberately" is entirely in the judgement of the umpire. If the runner swipes at your glove with her hand (ala A. Rod.), that's pretty obviously deliberate. But if the runner simply runs hard into the glove with no other motion to dislodge the ball, then it's probably your bad for failing to control the ball during the tag.