Is there a rule regarding the defensive coach...

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

And having a defensive coach come out almost into the offensive coach's box and being verbal in some manner.... didnt affect the play in any manner? like i said i'm new to umpiring.... but a coach being where they are NOT suppose to be affected the play in some manner.. otherwise why are there rules dictating where a coach should be at all times?
Dunno, maybe i just like to argue

What's your point? Yes - the coach shouldn't be there. But your solution harms the OTHER team. Don't stop the play. Penalize the coach if they somehow actually affect the play. It's doubtful that they actually affected the play --- what could they yell from right there that they couldn't yell from the dugout ... but if you DO think they affected the play, penalize it (obstruction, I suppose ... although it's probably a bit of a stretch).

[wadeintothem]

Ha!

Thats a great article.

Boy, that would be a good rule for defense.. any time something is happening.. Def coach just comes sniveling quickly out of the dugout.. blam; ball is dead play over runners stop running.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Boy, that would be a good rule for defense.. any time something is happening.. Def coach just comes sniveling quickly out of the dugout.. blam; ball is dead play over runners stop running.

Well, you see the point that Cajun obviously is missing.

[CajunNewBlue]

I guess I am missing the point. (actually not anymore.. points taken and yes I am thinking in terms of recreation ball...home of the sneakiest.. trickiest coaches ever known to inhabit god's green earth) but, as i re-re-re-read the article its the timing that has me a little confused... runner slides into third... defensive coach has enough time to come out to third to say whatever she thought she was entitled to say.. first base coach says to hisself ok "time" is called (not...because why bother stealing then lying that you thought time was called later?) so lets steal to second?... runner has enough time to steal to second... then the throw". at which time im sure the third base coach has moved the defensive coach out of the way and is telling his runner to advance"
Luckily being new I havent embarrassed myself by doing my first reaction....having only officiated a few high school games (and a sh*tload of catholic league games and rec.games).. but im sure i will have time to mess up as the year goes on. lol
So, i will keep reading the posts and learning. thanks y'all

[bkbjones]

Don't worry about the newspaper article. There is no such thing as an unbiased news report of any sort. I am speaking from experience. so quit reading too much into it or I'll hit you over the head with a plaque.

Just take the bare facts as they are. Look at it as if you were an umpire on the field at that game.

Then, think about how you would dare to take the ball out of the fielders' hands, or in this case the running shoes off the offense. You are depriving the offense of a chance to score...or, in this case, not allowing the defense to make the last out of the game.

If you call time in this situation, IMHO you might as well go put on your asbestos shorts before you come see me if I am your UIC. We'll find a very private place. It won't be somewhere where "WE" can talk, for only one of us will be talking in very plain English that is easily understandable.

Now...if the runner scores and all play has ceased, then call time and invite the coach over for a little tea, crumpets and friendly chit chat. I probably wouldn't run a coach at this point in Fed ball...but I would likely restrict them to the dugout. If their cream gets overly clotted or they otherwise eject themselves, then by all means run 'em.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

Don't worry about the newspaper article. There is no such thing as an unbiased news report of any sort. I am speaking from experience. so quit reading too much into it or I'll hit you over the head with a plaque.

Just take the bare facts as they are. Look at it as if you were an umpire on the field at that game.

Then, think about how you would dare to take the ball out of the fielders' hands, or in this case the running shoes off the offense. You are depriving the offense of a chance to score...or, in this case, not allowing the defense to make the last out of the game.

If you call time in this situation, IMHO you might as well go put on your asbestos shorts before you come see me if I am your UIC. We'll find a very private place. It won't be somewhere where "WE" can talk, for only one of us will be talking in very plain English that is easily understandable.

Now...if the runner scores and all play has ceased, then call time and invite the coach over for a little tea, crumpets and friendly chit chat. I probably wouldn't run a coach at this point in Fed ball...but I would likely restrict them to the dugout. If their cream gets overly clotted or they otherwise eject themselves, then by all means run 'em.

LOL.. ok point "again" taken... I gotta ask... is that a foam plaque or a really hard laquered one?
And I looked and looked.. honigs... ump-attire.. and even the *gasp* asa & usssa sites... where do they hide the asbestos shorts? coz i couldnt find a pair to pre-order for a day most likely to come.