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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 10:14am
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Well, I thought the orange jump suit comment was the most interesting in this thread so far, but since it keeps going, here is my .

The western cut pockets may look better when in the set position, but the pockets themselves are not useful as, well, POCKETS! Too hard to get stuff in and out.

ASA's "official gear" plate pants (Fechheimer's) are much too generous in leg room. They are elephant legs. I suppose you could find some leg guards that would need that much room, but not any that I have need it.

ASA's "official gear" plate pants rubberized strip at the waist is ineffective at keeping the shirt neatly tucked in. I still have to use the separate knobby belt.

Cliff Keen's combo pants (pleated) are just about right in roominess for plate duty. Still look a bit too big for base use, but will do. The internal strip is wider than the Fechheimer's and does a better job of keeping the shirt neat.
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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 10:35am
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Well, I thought the orange jump suit comment was the most interesting in this thread so far, but since it keeps going, here is my .

The western cut pockets may look better when in the set position, but the pockets themselves are not useful as, well, POCKETS! Too hard to get stuff in and out.

ASA's "official gear" plate pants (Fechheimer's) are much too generous in leg room. They are elephant legs. I suppose you could find some leg guards that would need that much room, but not any that I have need it.

ASA's "official gear" plate pants rubberized strip at the waist is ineffective at keeping the shirt neatly tucked in. I still have to use the separate knobby belt.

Cliff Keen's combo pants (pleated) are just about right in roominess for plate duty. Still look a bit too big for base use, but will do. The internal strip is wider than the Fechheimer's and does a better job of keeping the shirt neat.
Odd. The Cliff Keens I have and the Fechheimers that I have are almost identical, with the exception that Fechheimers seem to have a little more quality fabric, and only one eye and hook fastner. These, of course, are the Fechheimer combos that I order from somewhere other than ASA, so maybe that is the difference. These also have pleats and "normal" style pockets.
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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 10:54am
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My Keen combos are a couple of years older than the Fechheimer's. The Fechheimer's (from ASA "official gear") are a different model from other Fechheimer's I've seen. Mine are the western cut pockets, non-pleated kind. It seems to me the older Keen combos are more sturdily made with heavier fabric than the Fechheimer's.

However, I also have a new pair of Keen base pants, and the fabric is lighter weight than on my Keen combos.

I do like the double hook fasteners at the waist that the Keens have - just seems more substantial.
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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 10:58am
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Anyone got a good supplier for the proper ASA pants without having to spend a ton? I have decent substitutes for rec ball, but they're just not the same. I'd hate to have to spend over $50 for a pair of pants if I don't have to.
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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 11:19am
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Anyone got a good supplier for the proper ASA pants without having to spend a ton? I have decent substitutes for rec ball, but they're just not the same. I'd hate to have to spend over $50 for a pair of pants if I don't have to.
To look the proper part, you are going to spend near $50.00 for pants. Hey! What's the big deal? They last forever. And they will pay for themselves the first tournament you work.
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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 11:38am
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By "proper ASA" do you mean western cut, no pleats? Those are harder to find. ASA Official Gear is the only place I know of, but since they don't make their own uniforms, there must be other places you can get them.

If you're willing to give up on either the western cut pockets or the no pleats (or both) there are many more places to purchase high quality umpire pants. Unfortunately, they will be in the $40+ price range.
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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 01:19pm
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By "proper ASA" do you mean western cut, no pleats? Those are harder to find. ASA Official Gear is the only place I know of, but since they don't make their own uniforms, there must be other places you can get them.

If you're willing to give up on either the western cut pockets or the no pleats (or both) there are many more places to purchase high quality umpire pants. Unfortunately, they will be in the $40+ price range.
Honigs has them, complete with the western cut pockets, in both navy and grey.
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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 08:18am
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And they will pay for themselves the first tournament you work.
Not if I ump for the same guy as the last one I called. 13 hours, and only 4 games total. In his defense, they had a MUCH lower than expected turnout.

Honestly, I rarely call tourneys anymore (for the above reason). I'm content drudging it out in the rec leagues for now. Heck, I make more in the rec leagues than what they pay us in some tourneys!
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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 08:26am
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Not if I ump for the same guy as the last one I called. 13 hours, and only 4 games total. In his defense, they had a MUCH lower than expected turnout.

Honestly, I rarely call tourneys anymore (for the above reason). I'm content drudging it out in the rec leagues for now. Heck, I make more in the rec leagues than what they pay us in some tourneys!
It took 13 hours to complete 4 games? or you had to wait around for 13 hours to call 4 games? heck, wait it out tween games at the local bar.... makes time go much faster.
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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 12:06pm
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The western cut pockets may look better when in the set position, but the pockets themselves are not useful as, well, POCKETS! Too hard to get stuff in and out.
They would be usefull if you ordered your pants based on an actual measurement and not from what you remember ordering 10 years ago.
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They would be usefull if you ordered your pants based on an actual measurement and not from what you remember ordering 10 years ago.


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