The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #16 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 20, 2007, 01:44am
SRW SRW is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 1,342
Quote:
Originally Posted by JEL
SRW,

There must be a reason here. Was it called OBS? Did you witness this one? You gotta have more on this story!
I do! But there's got to be more responses than what's posted! I'll be waiting for another day before I post what happened...
__________________
We see with our eyes. Fans and parents see with their hearts.
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 20, 2007, 04:50am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 209
Quote:
Originally Posted by SRW
I do! But there's got to be more responses than what's posted! I'll be waiting for another day before I post what happened...
Are you trying to get at that maybe F2's foot is not actually touching home plate, and is in front of it?
Or if F2's foot is on the plate, is that OBS because the runner has been impeded from touching that part of home plate? That does not appear to be the case, as the ball should arrive before the runner does, thus no OBS.
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 20, 2007, 03:37pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomerSooner
Well, I think the most obvious problem is the batter's boxes have been wiped out. This was most likely intentional and needs to be addressed. Furthermore, I think the runner is trying to commit interference by throwing her hands in the air to prevent a throw to third. Of course all of this really won't matter because the runner is actually tagging up and trying to score on a fly ball to F9 for the 2nd out and both runners left early (if this were really a force situation the runner shouldn't be slidding but rather running full speed through home plate, althougth she may have slowed up and slid to avoid the pitcher who is backing up the ball just behind home). Once play is over the defense is actually going to appeal for a 3rd and eventual advantageous 4th out. Once this is over the offensive coach is going to appeal that an illegal glove was used to make the original catch by F9, to which the defensive coach will appeal an illegal bat used to hit the ball in the first place. Not to be outdone, the BU will realize that the pitch was actually illegal and made by an illegal substitute. Fortunately the official scorekeeper has decided to rectify the situtation by pointing out that the batter was BOO. At this point the parents of #11 in the picture let you know that she isn't really a she, if you get my point. Meanwhile a fan behind the screen begins dropping f-bombs on everyone involved. In a moment of sanity, the PU tosses everybody and wakes up thinking I've got to stop dreaming about all the OBS plays that keep coming up on The Official Forum.
lol
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 20, 2007, 03:50pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Question

I prefer making calls with movement, not stop-action.

a) runner is turning/bending right and still inside 3rd base line, so what was her path and did she turn/bend because the fielder was partly on the plate?

b) was the runner initially aiming at the catcher, to prevent further plays?

c) was the fieder initially blocking the plate and slid her foot forward as she reached for the throw?

d) who is that immediately behind #11 near 3rd? If F5, why not covering?
If BU, must be >2 ump system. If coach, ...

e) is the plate really wide open with fielder's foot on part of it?

f) is the camera angle or distance fooling us?

None of those matter, because we can only answer questions as they are presented, even if competent.
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 20, 2007, 07:32pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 209
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomerSooner
Well, I think the most obvious problem is the batter's boxes have been wiped out. This was most likely intentional and needs to be addressed. Furthermore, I think the runner is trying to commit interference by throwing her hands in the air to prevent a throw to third. Of course all of this really won't matter because the runner is actually tagging up and trying to score on a fly ball to F9 for the 2nd out and both runners left early (if this were really a force situation the runner shouldn't be slidding but rather running full speed through home plate, althougth she may have slowed up and slid to avoid the pitcher who is backing up the ball just behind home). Once play is over the defense is actually going to appeal for a 3rd and eventual advantageous 4th out. Once this is over the offensive coach is going to appeal that an illegal glove was used to make the original catch by F9, to which the defensive coach will appeal an illegal bat used to hit the ball in the first place. Not to be outdone, the BU will realize that the pitch was actually illegal and made by an illegal substitute. Fortunately the official scorekeeper has decided to rectify the situtation by pointing out that the batter was BOO. At this point the parents of #11 in the picture let you know that she isn't really a she, if you get my point. Meanwhile a fan behind the screen begins dropping f-bombs on everyone involved. In a moment of sanity, the PU tosses everybody and wakes up thinking I've got to stop dreaming about all the OBS plays that keep coming up on The Official Forum.
Wait, you forgot that the runner #7 going from 2B to 3B has her shirt untucked, runner #11 has a foreign substance applied to her hands, and there appears to be no pitcher's circle indicated on the infield...
Reply With Quote
  #21 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 20, 2007, 10:42pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Back in TX, formerly Seattle area
Posts: 1,279
There is no NOCSAE stamp visible on the catcher's helmet...and she's not wearing those "Knee Savers."

when will they invent Knee Savers for umps?
__________________
John
An ucking fidiot
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 21, 2007, 08:19am
JEL JEL is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 910
I finally got it!

Both feet are aiborne at the same time, a classic leap! IP, score the run!

She is signalling wrong though, should be a delayed dead ball!
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 21, 2007, 09:17am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 209
One more: F5 is obstructing R2...
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 21, 2007, 09:21am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Little Elm, TX (NW Dallas)
Posts: 4,047
Quote:
Originally Posted by SRW
I do! But there's got to be more responses than what's posted! I'll be waiting for another day before I post what happened...
Just tell us what the deal is on this one. Looks pretty unanimous to me, and pretty clear based on only what we see in this picture. Unless something that I would not possibly guess from this picture has occurred befoer the picture was taken, I can't see OBS here either.

So ... spill it.
__________________
"Many baseball fans look upon an umpire as a sort of necessary evil to the luxury of baseball, like the odor that follows an automobile." - Hall of Fame Pitcher Christy Mathewson
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 21, 2007, 10:00am
Al Al is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 207
Send a message via Yahoo to Al
Quote:
Originally Posted by NSABlue
Doesn't look like obs to me. In fact, it looks as though this may be a force play at the plate!
I agree, but if this is not a force out situation the catcher is positioned wrong and the tag will probably be late or maybe unintentionally knocked loose by the runners arm or hand when applied. .. Al
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 21, 2007, 10:17am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: LA
Posts: 642
this is worse than christmas.... the suspense is killing me. im gonna post this 99 more times.. so we can get an answer... BTW how do you make those reply's to other comments? and whats the "title" box for? i looked in FAQ's section and didnt see anything.(damn i hate saying that..lol)
__________________
Will Rogers must not have ever officiated in Louisiana.
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 21, 2007, 10:36am
SRW SRW is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 1,342
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefoot
One more: F5 is obstructing R2...
FINALLY! Someone got it!
The OBS was called on F5, not F2!
__________________
We see with our eyes. Fans and parents see with their hearts.
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 21, 2007, 10:49am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
partial credit

Quote:
Originally Posted by CecilOne
Id) who is that immediately behind #11 near 3rd? If F5, why not covering?
Partial credit? Yesterday, 04:50pm


wrt "BTW how do you make those reply's to other comments? and whats the "title" box for?"
- the QUOTE button, bottom right of each post
- if you want your post to have a sub-title that "clarifies" who others are responding to (see this post)
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 21, 2007, 11:00am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: LA
Posts: 642
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by CecilOne
Partial credit? Yesterday, 04:50pm


wrt "BTW how do you make those reply's to other comments? and whats the "title" box for?"
- the QUOTE button, bottom right of each post
- if you want your post to have a sub-title that "clarifies" who others are responding to (see this post)

thanks, i think this worked
__________________
Will Rogers must not have ever officiated in Louisiana.
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 21, 2007, 11:12am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Twin Cities MN
Posts: 8,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by SRW
FINALLY! Someone got it!
The OBS was called on F5, not F2!
But, that wouldn't be MY call, since with this view, I'm PU. You asked, "What's YOUR call?"
__________________
Tom
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ASA OBS call then no call leads to ejection DaveASA/FED Softball 28 Mon Jul 12, 2004 03:52pm
To call or not to call foul ball DaveASA/FED Softball 11 Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:47am
More Pacers/Pistons call/no call OverAndBack Basketball 36 Thu Jun 03, 2004 07:01pm
Good Call / Bad Call whiskers_ump Softball 29 Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:35am
Does one call relate to the last call? Tee Basketball 28 Thu Feb 13, 2003 05:53pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:46pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1