Runner question

[mcrowder]

Why would anyone be out in this scenario at all?

Well ... he edited his post after I posted my response... I now see that OP is thinking there's a LBR violation. As others have stated below, there is no LBR to violate if the pitcher makes a play on anyone. BR was legal when she retreated back to 1st base.

[DaveASA/FED]

Lookback rule in out of effect anytime the pitcher makes a play in the umpires judgement. I don't think anyone would argue that throwing the ball to get a runner out is not making a play! So the LBR is null and the runner are safe.

[tcannizzo]

R2 did not stop because she realized she was a dead duck, she stopped because she did what she was taught and achieved her goal which was to get the ball thrown out to 2B, and then go get into a rundown to allow the run to score. It is scored as a SAC if she gets out, but staying safe at 2B is gravy.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

R2 did not stop because she realized she was a dead duck, she stopped because she did what she was taught and achieved her goal which was to get the ball thrown out to 2B, and then go get into a rundown to allow the run to score. It is scored as a SAC if she gets out, but staying safe at 2B is gravy.

There's no such thing as a sacrifice Caught Stealing... There are sacrifice bunts and sacrifice flies. This runner does not get credited with a sac (Or an RBI, if you were implying that).

[tcannizzo]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

There's no such thing as a sacrifice Caught Stealing... There are sacrifice bunts and sacrifice flies. This runner does not get credited with a sac (Or an RBI, if you were implying that).

The Official Scorer doesn't know jack about fastpitch.

[argodad]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

The Official Scorer doesn't know jack about fastpitch.

Tony, as her coach you can give her a helmet sticker or a lollypop or whatever you want for executing the play the way you wanted. However, the scorer can't give her a SAC -- no matter how much the scorer knows or doesn't know about fastpitch.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by argodad

...the scorer can't give her a SAC -- no matter how much the scorer ...doesn't know about fastpitch.

Really?? You mean the hand will refuse to enter than into the score book?

[argodad]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Really?? You mean the hand will refuse to enter than into the score book?

Well, I take it back. If it's a home team mom scoring a HS game, she might get a SAC, or maybe even a hit, and if it's the scorer's daughter, maybe even an RBI.